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www.slowitdown.co.uk/speed_info.asp
I'm just double checking, but this is complete and utter bollox, right? How the hell do they work that one out?
tax collectors said:
Excessive and inappropriate speed is the single biggest cause of road traffic collisions.
I'm just double checking, but this is complete and utter bollox, right? How the hell do they work that one out?
ed22 said:
"If you are unsure of the speed limit stick to 30mph.
When driving in a 30mph zone, put your vehicle in 3rd gear. The natural speed of the car will be around 30mph, and will assist you in keeping to the speed limit."
Won't this simply ADD to emissions????
Can I use this as a defence if I get scammed in a 20 zone?Old hat. See: 'RE: Know your Limits' (started Wednesday 3rd September 2003) - Streaky
ed22 said:
"If you are unsure of the speed limit stick to 30mph.
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Won't this simply ADD to emissions????
ooooh, just realised, this is no longer valid as 20MPH zones are now being enforced. You may be better off sticking to 20 if unsure of the limit.
A cunning plan by our government? A way of creating extra congestion, or for raising extra revenue?
edited to add: oops, just saw NCoT's post
>> Edited by supraman2954 on Monday 11th April 08:48
misinformation site said:
When driving in a 30mph zone, put your vehicle in 3rd gear. The natural speed of the car will be around 30mph, and will assist you in keeping to the speed limit.
What nonsense
30mph? To be in control of either of our cars 30mph = 2nd gear. 3rd gear is practically freewheeling/coasting on idle speed i.e. out of control.
tax collectors said:Actually, I dont know why they dont just take this to its logical conclusion and claim that ALL road traffic collisions are as a result of excessive and innapropriate speed.
Excessive and inappropriate speed is the single biggest cause of road traffic collisions.
If you are doing say 25mph in a 30 mph zone and someone comes out of a side road without looking, your speed may well have been within the speed limit, but clearly you were travelling too fast 'just in case' someone came out of a side road without looking. Likewise the person who pulled out without looking was also travelling too fast, even if it was just a few mph, that is excessive compared to STOP.
If your car is stationary at the side of the road and a piano falls out of a sling and smashes into your car, speed is once again the problem, in this case being the terminal velocity of the piano.
We all know that nearly all accidents are caused by bad driving, and something like 93% of accidents occur within the speed limit, but it can still be claimed that excessive speed was a factor, because at least one of the vehicles involved has to be physically moving in order for a collision to occur.
Excessive speed is a factor in ALL accidents, you cant argue with that.
Sent to the marketing Department.
You state that
“Excessive and inappropriate speed is the single biggest cause of road traffic collisions.”
Figures produced by this government state that only 7% of accidents are caused by speed over the stated limit. Even if incidents that have occurred BELOW the stated limit but at an inappropriate speed for conditions or are secondary are added this does not push the figures beyond 15%. HARDLY THE BIGGEST CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS.
Jeremy Hunt
You state that
“Excessive and inappropriate speed is the single biggest cause of road traffic collisions.”
Figures produced by this government state that only 7% of accidents are caused by speed over the stated limit. Even if incidents that have occurred BELOW the stated limit but at an inappropriate speed for conditions or are secondary are added this does not push the figures beyond 15%. HARDLY THE BIGGEST CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS.
Jeremy Hunt
They usually claim that 30% of accidents are caused by speed, when yes, only 7% are. They say that were an accident was caused by drink driving, if he was going slightly over the limit, even though that was nothing to do with the cause, its another speed related accident stat.
Thats like saying 25% of accident are caused when drivers where heading in a westerly direction. If we stopped drivers going west, we could reduce accidents by 25%.
Thats like saying 25% of accident are caused when drivers where heading in a westerly direction. If we stopped drivers going west, we could reduce accidents by 25%.
PetrolTed said:Hmm, I'd say the natural speed for my car in third would be about double that.
When driving in a 30mph zone, put your vehicle in 3rd gear. The natural speed of the car will be around 30mph, and will assist you in keeping to the speed limit.
What nonsense
30mph? To be in control of either of our cars 30mph = 2nd gear. 3rd gear is practically freewheeling/coasting on idle speed i.e. out of control.
[url]www.slowitdown.co.uk/challenge.asp[/url]
Have a go at this and muller those pedestrians every time!
Have a go at this and muller those pedestrians every time!
MR2Mike said:
My ZX12R does 90mph in 1st gear at the red-line
And the red-line is the natural place for the engine to be running at
Well no, at 4000rpm (33% to red line) it's exactly 30mph in 1st gear.
In a car with a redline at 7000rpm, that's 2333rpm (33%), still not very much at all.
Anyway, I use my car and bike 98% of the time on the continent. The other 2% gets me to the tunnel and back.
sj78 said:Not this again. You will make it to work exactly 10 minutes late every time, even if you don't move forward an inch!
www.slowitdown.co.uk/challenge.asp
Have a go at this and muller those pedestrians every time!
I just did it "properly"
and was 10 minutes late! I can't even begin to go into the multiple ways in which that is a complete crock! Oh, alright then :
1 - top down view, very realistic
2 - only about 15 feet visibility
3 - worst brakes in christendom
4 - surely should have left earlier if journey takes 25 minutes!
5 - do kids normally loiter on zebra crossings waiting for cars to come along!?
6 - love the emotive headlines - "Driver mows down kids, etc.", "being on time wouldn't be much use to parents of child run over" Oh, won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!?
ARGH! Derbys Scam Partnership should be strung up for this bit of gormless crap.
Edited: yep, just left it there and got to work 10 minutes late without mowing down any kiddies
. Tomorrow I shall get up 10 minutes earlier than usual, and sit in my car for a bit without starting it. Should make it in bang on time! >> Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Tuesday 12th April 19:02
ed22 said:
"If you are unsure of the speed limit stick to 30mph.
When driving in a 30mph zone, put your vehicle in 3rd gear.
Won't this simply ADD to emissions????
It will certainly increase emissions, just the same as traffic lights do.
It will also increase fuel consumption and deplete valuable oil stocks much faster.
It will cause an increase in noise, caused by higher revving engines.
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