Why?????????????
Discussion
We know that they do nothing for safety on the road and we know they are designed to make revenue. But why on earth do people still do it considering the fact that they are allowed to put some money back into the partnership and buy more cameras!!!!!!!
Why???
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4487497.stm
>>> Edited by funkyrobot on Wednesday 27th April 09:35
Why???
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4487497.stm
>>> Edited by funkyrobot on Wednesday 27th April 09:35
People don't drive along with the intention of giving money to scamera partnerships. They drive along at a level they feel safe, many of us with years of accident free motoring. This problem will carry on occuring whilst the law has been abused to overrule the people rather than serve it.
As for your opening line, where do you get the "we" from? I know the scameras are about revenue and oppression of motorists. From your previous posts I'm not so sure you do.
DAZ
As for your opening line, where do you get the "we" from? I know the scameras are about revenue and oppression of motorists. From your previous posts I'm not so sure you do.
DAZ
dazren said:
People don't drive along with the intention of giving money to scamera partnerships. They drive along at a level they feel safe, many of us with years of accident free motoring. This problem will carry on occuring whilst the law has been abused to overrule the people rather than serve it.
As for your opening line, where do you get the "we" from? I know the scameras are about revenue and oppression of motorists. From your previous posts I'm not so sure you do.
DAZ
I said that because I know what speed cameras are really about, check my posts properly and you'll see.
Just because I state that if you do the speed limit you won't be caught you assume that I don't really know what the cameras are about, but you're wrong. It seems that the thousands of people caught a year speeding do not know what the cameras are really about.
superfool said:
onesubjectrobot said:
I said that because I know what speed cameras are really about, check my posts properly and you'll see.
We're just not convinced that you understand what driving is really about.
It is either getting from a to b, or enjoying the feel of motoring, both in a safe and law abiding manner?
>> Edited by funkyrobot on Wednesday 27th April 10:55
hedders said:
onesubjectrobot said:
I said that because I know what speed cameras are really about, check my posts properly and you'll see.
We're just not convinced that you understand what driving is really about.
He is just a wind up merchant...ignore him.
No decent comments or opinions on the points in my post once again.
People do it because people always have and always will.
Authorities cannot/will not understand the simple fact the the majority of people drive in a safe and sensible manner at a spped that is suitable for the road conditions.
Stupid lowering of these limits and ignoring the advances in vehicle technology has led them to believe that they can get away with plundering the motorosts pocket. They want to have 5 million tickets a year, year in, year out and even if everyone stuck to the limits everywhere, all that would happen is that the limits would be reduced and road deaths would continue to happen at or above the current rate.
Stupid laws and electronic enforcement will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to change the fact that people can and will think for themselves and remains safe drivers, irrespective of the speed limit.
If you also fail to understand that "the law is the law" is as stupid as stupid gets, then there is no hope for you at all. History is riddled with stupid laws that the population ignore, and rightly so. 60 in a 50 that used to be a 60 isn't breaking a law, its doing the right thing. Nothing changed, just a notional limit on a tin sign and an opportunity of revenue enhancement.
Authorities cannot/will not understand the simple fact the the majority of people drive in a safe and sensible manner at a spped that is suitable for the road conditions.
Stupid lowering of these limits and ignoring the advances in vehicle technology has led them to believe that they can get away with plundering the motorosts pocket. They want to have 5 million tickets a year, year in, year out and even if everyone stuck to the limits everywhere, all that would happen is that the limits would be reduced and road deaths would continue to happen at or above the current rate.
Stupid laws and electronic enforcement will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to change the fact that people can and will think for themselves and remains safe drivers, irrespective of the speed limit.
If you also fail to understand that "the law is the law" is as stupid as stupid gets, then there is no hope for you at all. History is riddled with stupid laws that the population ignore, and rightly so. 60 in a 50 that used to be a 60 isn't breaking a law, its doing the right thing. Nothing changed, just a notional limit on a tin sign and an opportunity of revenue enhancement.
funkyrobot said:
It is either getting from a to b, or enjoying the feel of motoring, both in a safe and law abiding manner?
>> Edited by funkyrobot on Wednesday 27th April 10:55
Tha latter part of your comment suggests you have an opinion on driving issues, and government policy relating to what is and isn't "safe and law-abiding".
However, as already suggested this topic has been thoroughly debated on this (MOTORING!) website, and I doubt that you will get a lot of interest in raising the same subject again. Opinions have mostly been stated at great length, and with a fair amount of heat, and sometimes even a bit of light, so what NEW opinion are you trying to air?
If you bothered to read the other thread Funky, youll see the explanation as to "Why?".
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
) face mate.
Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
) face mate. Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
deltafox said:
If you bothered to read the other thread Funky, youll see the explanation as to "Why?".
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
Defiance?? Points, fines, possibly totting up to a ban, where you're off the road for a year?? Higher insurance?? More money for speed cameras??
Its a costly form of defiance ins't it.
funkyrobot said:
If you bothered to read the other thread Funky, youll see the explanation as to "Why?".
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
Defiance?? Points, fines, possibly totting up to a ban, where you're off the road for a year?? Higher insurance?? More money for speed cameras??
Its a costly form of defiance ins't it.
Putting yourself in the firing line always is, or didnt you know that?
deltafox said:
deltafox said:
If you bothered to read the other thread Funky, youll see the explanation as to "Why?".
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
Defiance?? Points, fines, possibly totting up to a ban, where you're off the road for a year?? Higher insurance?? More money for speed cameras??
Its a costly form of defiance ins't it.
Putting yourself in the firing line always is, or didnt you know that?
Try this scenario,
you get caught speeding one day and it just so happens that the money from your fine completes the budget for the siting of a new speed camera.
A few days after the speed camera goes live your best friend (who normally drives at the limit) is in a real rush to get to work for an important meeting, he/she doesn't know its there and snap!
Your defiance has effectively cost your friend points and money.
How do you feel about that?
funkyrobot said:
funkyrobot said:
deltafox said:
If you bothered to read the other thread Funky, youll see the explanation as to "Why?".
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
Defiance?? Points, fines, possibly totting up to a ban, where you're off the road for a year?? Higher insurance?? More money for speed cameras??
Its a costly form of defiance ins't it.
Putting yourself in the firing line always is, or didnt you know that?
Try this scenario,
you get caught speeding one day and it just so happens that the money from your fine completes the budget for the siting of a new speed camera.
A few days after the speed camera goes live your best friend (who normally drives at the limit) is in a real rush to get to work for an important meeting, he/she doesn't know its there and snap!
Your defiance has effectively cost your friend points and money.
How do you feel about that?
I feel that your simplistic logic is robbing me of my will to live.
Go and troll somewhere else!
deltafox said:
Your defiance has effectively cost your friend points and money.
How do you feel about that?
Indifferent.I wouldnt get the points, he would, Should have kept his eyes open and "manipulated" the scamera shouldnt he? How do you feel about it?
I feel that because of your 'defiance' you have added another money making item to the road. Therefore effectively shooting yourself in the foot.
blueyes said:
deltafox said:
funkyrobot said:
deltafox said:
If you bothered to read the other thread Funky, youll see the explanation as to "Why?".
Its as plain as the nose on your (robotic
Its called (once again for those that missed it) " Defiance".
People who continue to get caught on these theiving machines are termed "Defiers" by the scamships.
Others are termed "Manipulators" (they slow down then speed up) and "Conformers" (who do what theyre told unquestioningly) they always do what unelected officials tell them to...no free will of their own ya see.
Defiers cannot have their behaviour changed by the use of a scamera, points or fines. They can only be turned into conformers if the argument is sensible and logical...which it isnt.
So there ya have it. "Why?", cos we Defy!
Defiance?? Points, fines, possibly totting up to a ban, where you're off the road for a year?? Higher insurance?? More money for speed cameras??
Its a costly form of defiance ins't it.
Putting yourself in the firing line always is, or didnt you know that?
Try this scenario,
you get caught speeding one day and it just so happens that the money from your fine completes the budget for the siting of a new speed camera.
A few days after the speed camera goes live your best friend (who normally drives at the limit) is in a real rush to get to work for an important meeting, he/she doesn't know its there and snap!
Your defiance has effectively cost your friend points and money.
How do you feel about that?
I feel that your simplistic logic is robbing me of my will to live.
Go and troll somewhere else!
Its funny how it is so simplistic, but too hard to be understood by people.
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