School zone speed sign
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What if a school zone speed sign is flashing 20mph during a school holiday? Do you have to obey the limit? Similar question applies to motorway when lower speed limits are applied to construction areas at times when clearly no one is working or work may have been completed, although admittedly this may be harder to judge.
Zed 44 said:
What if a school zone speed sign is flashing 20mph during a school holiday? Do you have to obey the limit? Similar question applies to motorway when lower speed limits are applied to construction areas at times when clearly no one is working or work may have been completed, although admittedly this may be harder to judge.
You don't have to obey the speed limit as there is nothing to physically stop you travelling faster than the speed limit.
There are variations so if you have an example of the sign that would help.
Wig-Wag lights can be simply to highlight the hazard (Advisory) or to give notice that the temporary restriction is active.
Just because it is a school holiday doesn't mean that the restriction isn't needed though. Plenty of school facilities are in use outside of term time.
Motorways. Again do you mean the central warning boards or the overhead signs on smart motorways?
Wig-Wag lights can be simply to highlight the hazard (Advisory) or to give notice that the temporary restriction is active.
Just because it is a school holiday doesn't mean that the restriction isn't needed though. Plenty of school facilities are in use outside of term time.
Motorways. Again do you mean the central warning boards or the overhead signs on smart motorways?
Zed 44 said:
Similar question applies to motorway when lower speed limits are applied to construction areas at times when clearly no one is working or work may have been completed...
It is there to protect the imaginary workforce. Imaginary people are just as important as real ones, and have feelings too.You even get signs saying 'Workforce may be out of sight' or somesuch. Indeed they are.
BertBert said:
I'm sorry to be that person. But speed limits are covered quite well in the highway code and the information needed to pass a test. Have you passed a test and read the highway code? If not then perhaps do so.
I did but it was a long time ago. I asked the question on here because I thought someone as erudite as you might be able to answer the question and short-circuit the necessity of needing to get hold of a highway code and read it.Zed 44 said:
I did but it was a long time ago. I asked the question on here because I thought someone as erudite as you might be able to answer the question and short-circuit the necessity of needing to get hold of a highway code and read it.
The HC is easily available on line, and you can sign up for e-mailed updates. No excuse really.20mph Zone limits may only be 'advisory' according to Norfolk Police:
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/24191915.norfolk-driv...
"Norfolk police stressed there was a difference between roads with 20mph limits and 20mph zones.
The force said 20mph zones, introduced by councils, normally have speed reduction measures, such as speed humps, in place.
They said if they were introduced without a traffic order, then the speed limit applicable and enforceable would be 30mph, despite the presence of 20mph signs, described by police as 'advisory'. "
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/24191915.norfolk-driv...
"Norfolk police stressed there was a difference between roads with 20mph limits and 20mph zones.
The force said 20mph zones, introduced by councils, normally have speed reduction measures, such as speed humps, in place.
They said if they were introduced without a traffic order, then the speed limit applicable and enforceable would be 30mph, despite the presence of 20mph signs, described by police as 'advisory'. "
BertBert said:
I'm sorry to be that person. But speed limits are covered quite well in the highway code and the information needed to pass a test. Have you passed a test and read the highway code? If not then perhaps do so.
Rule 208Near schools. Drive slowly and be particularly aware of young cyclists and pedestrians. In some places, there may be a flashing amber signal below the ‘School’ warning sign which tells you that there may be children crossing the road ahead. Drive very slowly until you are clear of the area.
no ‘must’ there! Somewhat advisory and unidimensional I think and should the worst happen not heeding that advice could well go against you. In any case slowing by a school for a hundred metres or so is hardly an inconvenience.
Pica-Pica said:
The HC is easily available on line, and you can sign up for e-mailed updates. No excuse really.
Obviously, I am not going to get a straightforward answer to what I thought was a fairly simple question here. I will refer myself to the HC (highway code) which no doubt will be just as vague.Zed 44 said:
Pica-Pica said:
The HC is easily available on line, and you can sign up for e-mailed updates. No excuse really.
Obviously, I am not going to get a straightforward answer to what I thought was a fairly simple question here. I will refer myself to the HC (highway code) which no doubt will be just as vague.As for motorway works, workers safety is only one reason to reduce the speed limit there are many others. The official wording is along the lines of, The infrastructure may not be able to withstand a high speed collision.
Zed 44 said:
What if a school zone speed sign is flashing 20mph during a school holiday? Do you have to obey the limit? Similar question applies to motorway when lower speed limits are applied to construction areas at times when clearly no one is working or work may have been completed, although admittedly this may be harder to judge.
Want a simple answer? I would. Many schools offer school clubs during holidays and even though area around school may not look busy there will be some kids going to and from their clubs. I would argue that one should slow down near school at any time.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff