Police to monitor every vehicle journey in UK

Police to monitor every vehicle journey in UK

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MMC

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341 posts

271 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Well, it was going to come sooner or later...

Full story here:

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article33


From 2006 Britain will be the first country where every journey by every car will be monitored
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Published: 22 December 2005

Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.

Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.

"The security services will use it for purposes that I frankly don't have access to. It's part of public protection. If the security services did not have access to this, we'd be negligent."

Sadly, this doesn't surprise me at all, although it worries me that we're increasingly becoming a highly monitored and controlled state.

I thought the classic line was "Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained."

Head of Stasi Whitely is the Chief Constable of Herts. But he's not interested in stolen cars - oh no.

And don't give me the "if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to worry about" line. Cloned plates anyone? Poor computer data anyone? DVLA database around 30% inaccurate anyone?

rich-uk

1,431 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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When will the fools realise that criminals don't play by the rules and won't have vehicles registered in their name and insured and taxed.

Just another way of bullying the masses and making some money.

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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As has been said before, the IT project to set this up and store it will not work. The amount of storge required for the movement of every car for 2 years is enormous.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

285 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Big storage arrays are not a problem. In another few years all legitimately bought number plates will contain an RFID tag which will pass other data (MOT date, owner details, etc) to roadside readers linked to the system.

I wonder how much of it will work on my 6 volt matchless motorbike with the black rear numberplate

I must say, I'm getting a bit fed up of living my life being treated as a suspect by the state.

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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No, theroretically, they aren't a problem. But can you really see a government IT project actually succeeding in this? I can't (and I'm currently working in a large government IT project...)

motco

16,020 posts

248 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Orwell would be staggered - the State has exceeded even his Machiavellian nightmares.

Tonyrec

3,984 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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All sounds a bit erm.......stupid to me and it will never work . If it does then i will show my a**e in Fenwicks window.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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It'll be recorded on camera you know

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

246 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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BliarOut said:
It'll be recorded on camera you know

Don't suppose Tony's arse has a registration plate though, so they'll never catch him.

JMGS4

8,741 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Einion Yrth said:
BliarOut said:
It'll be recorded on camera you know

Don't suppose Tony's arse has a registration plate though, so they'll never catch him.


But the RFID chip which the socio-fascists will insert into his rectum will be monitored!!!

Tonyrec

3,984 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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JMGS4 said:
Einion Yrth said:
BliarOut said:
It'll be recorded on camera you know

Don't suppose Tony's arse has a registration plate though, so they'll never catch him.


But the RFID chip which the socio-fascists will insert into his rectum will be monitored!!!


I joined in the early 80's so this chip is def not fitted

nel

4,772 posts

243 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Thank god the government will give the IT project to EDS, so it'll cost us a bundle but never work properly.

deltafox

3,839 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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You know what the solution to this is dont you?

No number plates. Wear a disguise. Wear a T shirt with a number plate logo (correct size and spacing of course!). And finally, hit every single camera that theyve got on our streets, whatever its claimed to be for. Its the only way to stop this kind of shite from happening.
So much for traffic masters being "benign".

The meek dont inherit the earth, they get stomped on by the state.
Time to wake up methinks.

JMGS4

8,741 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Tonyrec said:
JMGS4 said:
Einion Yrth said:
BliarOut said:
It'll be recorded on camera you know

Don't suppose Tony's arse has a registration plate though, so they'll never catch him.

But the RFID chip which the socio-fascists will insert into his rectum will be monitored!!!

I joined in the early 80's so this chip is def not fitted


Just wait, you'll have to report to the RFID dept where a friendly civil servant steward will help you insert it with a 10" rectal injection....ooooohhh get you!!!!!!

JMGS4

8,741 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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deltafox said:
Wear a T shirt with a number plate logo (correct size and spacing of course!).
obviously a german numberplate FÜC-KU 2????

pentoman

4,814 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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This has to be a wind-up, right? They just want more power really don't they.

Since when did the public, who the government (correct me if I'm wrong) is there for, want this?



>> Edited by pentoman on Thursday 22 December 10:16

apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Just a small point, cameras are being wrecked on a growing daily basis, won't these also be attacked?

pentoman

4,814 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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apache said:
Just a small point, cameras are being wrecked on a growing daily basis, won't these also be attacked?


No, as they will be WATCHING YOU!

Can we just get it over with - ban everything that could potentially lead to a crime and install cctv in everybody's homes so you know where they are at all times - so I can bloody well go and kill myself.

toni896

2,188 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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name said:
Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey

thats why the London bombers got the the final destination on the train no doubt !

james_j

3,996 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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toni896 said:
name said:
Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey

thats why the London bombers got the the final destination on the train no doubt !


Yes, the 500,000 CCTV cameras in London alone (we have more CCTV throughoout the country than most others in the world) weren't much good were they? Great for watching things happen after the event though, but no deterrent.

No doubt, constant monitoring will be spun in the usual Labour way as anti-terrorist / anti-criminal when the true agenda is no doubt to wring movement tax out of everyone.