Deaths leap in speed-camera county ....
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From the Evening Standard:
"Road deaths leaped by 30 per cent last year in Essex - a county renowned for its tough speed-camera campaign. "
"A total of 123 people died in crashes in the county - 37 more than in 2000, a police report reveals today"
www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=486178&in_review_text_id=442750
Sense in the press ? Shurely shome mishtake ?
cheers
"Road deaths leaped by 30 per cent last year in Essex - a county renowned for its tough speed-camera campaign. "
"A total of 123 people died in crashes in the county - 37 more than in 2000, a police report reveals today"
www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=486178&in_review_text_id=442750
Sense in the press ? Shurely shome mishtake ?
cheers
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From the Evening Standard:
"Road deaths leaped by 30 per cent last year in Essex - a county renowned for its tough speed-camera campaign. "
"A total of 123 people died in crashes in the county - 37 more than in 2000, a police report reveals today"
www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=486178&in_review_text_id=442750
Sense in the press ? Shurely shome mishtake ?
cheers
The Police in Essex are obviously a bit fic because they are defendeing the use of cameras despite the disastrous result.
You just don't get it !!! 
Less KSI = cameras are working = let's install more !
More KSI = better install some more cameras !!
Sorry, but that's the way it works. T2000 and other groups have already stated that they want to "remove the glamour" from motorised transport. This is how they are going to do it.
C
Less KSI = cameras are working = let's install more !
More KSI = better install some more cameras !!
Sorry, but that's the way it works. T2000 and other groups have already stated that they want to "remove the glamour" from motorised transport. This is how they are going to do it.
C
Yeah - well T2000 can kiss my plums. I'm afraid I can't take them seriously and never did.
They want to take the glamour out of motor vehicles ?
95% of vehicles on the road (think Ford, Vauxhall, Nissan, Kia, Daewoo etc) have zero glamour - they have function - getting from A to B - that's all most people are interested in.
Not us (people on PH) of course, but my point is that with no viable alternative in the way of public (ack!)transport, T2000 might as well be campaining to curb the use of electricity. Not many people are enthused by electricity, but we all rely on it.. just like we do our cars/motorbikes.
Anyway, what chance do T2k stand of 'taking the glamour out' when advertising, TV, films, music videos and other evangelists of the consumer dream are seemingly the source of most people's deepest insight into life ?
Also, let's not forget just how much the government rely of motorists for revenue. No government can ignore that anymore than it can ignore the pressure which can be brought to bear on them by global corporations such as Ford, GM, BP, Amoco etc.
This government, with their guerilla takeover of Railtrack and the consequently likely collapse of their PPP tube-proposals have just ensured that Public Transport will be inadequate for another generation.
I hope that this news is the first in a long line of embarassments for the govt. which will prove a lot of what we've said all along and will mark a turning point in their policy on use of cameras.
Long live the car.. and Transport 2000 for their comedy value...
They want to take the glamour out of motor vehicles ?
95% of vehicles on the road (think Ford, Vauxhall, Nissan, Kia, Daewoo etc) have zero glamour - they have function - getting from A to B - that's all most people are interested in.
Not us (people on PH) of course, but my point is that with no viable alternative in the way of public (ack!)transport, T2000 might as well be campaining to curb the use of electricity. Not many people are enthused by electricity, but we all rely on it.. just like we do our cars/motorbikes.
Anyway, what chance do T2k stand of 'taking the glamour out' when advertising, TV, films, music videos and other evangelists of the consumer dream are seemingly the source of most people's deepest insight into life ?
Also, let's not forget just how much the government rely of motorists for revenue. No government can ignore that anymore than it can ignore the pressure which can be brought to bear on them by global corporations such as Ford, GM, BP, Amoco etc.
This government, with their guerilla takeover of Railtrack and the consequently likely collapse of their PPP tube-proposals have just ensured that Public Transport will be inadequate for another generation.
I hope that this news is the first in a long line of embarassments for the govt. which will prove a lot of what we've said all along and will mark a turning point in their policy on use of cameras.
Long live the car.. and Transport 2000 for their comedy value...
The only good kind of t2k person is the dead kind. The problem is that the green BBC always turn to them for the silly view and almost never invite the opposing view from the ABD. Even when they do the response is calm and sensible with a fair degree of reality in there. It is not the kind of stuff I or possibly ZZR would like to see. We never get statements from MMC for example like. "These people are just being silly we have a perfectly good public transport system it is called the private car and its about time the country started catering for it".
T2k hide in the shadows (eg they have now web communication capability) so we can't verbally batter them, they don't advertise where they meet so we can't interupt them, they are more evil than the Mafia.
T2k hide in the shadows (eg they have now web communication capability) so we can't verbally batter them, they don't advertise where they meet so we can't interupt them, they are more evil than the Mafia.
actually I know why KSI's are up 30%...
"Bloody ignorant b'stard pedestrians who arrogantly think they can walk in front of a car without looking, and that the driver is responsible." - that's my personal quote for the day. Feel free to use it.
Ha ha ha! Pols will NEVER get KSI's to zero, because no matter how slow they make us drive, there will ALWAYS be a pedestrian who throws themselves under your car at 3 yards, just to see if you can stop at 5MPH.
"Bloody ignorant b'stard pedestrians who arrogantly think they can walk in front of a car without looking, and that the driver is responsible." - that's my personal quote for the day. Feel free to use it.
Ha ha ha! Pols will NEVER get KSI's to zero, because no matter how slow they make us drive, there will ALWAYS be a pedestrian who throws themselves under your car at 3 yards, just to see if you can stop at 5MPH.
Did anyone see the piece on UK Today (BBC1's Digital Regional News Channel) about the old fella with the classic car who's going to the EU court of human rights over his right not to incriminate himself on the form which comes after being snapped by a gatso ?
The oik presenter who was interviewing him this morning started laying into him saying things like "You really are just trying to avoid being punished for breaking the law aren't you ?" and "You broke the speed limit so you're a criminal and you are just trying to weasel out of paying for your offence"
If I had a cheaper telly I'd have thrown my cornflakes at it...
I didn't get the presenter's name as I had to turn off before I exploded, but if I get it I'm going to start a campaign against him.
The oik presenter who was interviewing him this morning started laying into him saying things like "You really are just trying to avoid being punished for breaking the law aren't you ?" and "You broke the speed limit so you're a criminal and you are just trying to weasel out of paying for your offence"
If I had a cheaper telly I'd have thrown my cornflakes at it...
I didn't get the presenter's name as I had to turn off before I exploded, but if I get it I'm going to start a campaign against him.
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If I had a cheaper telly I'd have thrown my cornflakes at it...
I didn't get the presenter's name as I had to turn off before I exploded, but if I get it I'm going to start a campaign against him.
These Cornflakes then, are they the soft soggy type with milk on or are they some special andti t2k armour piercing green seeking ones?
Seriously though if you get the scumbags name let us know please so I can harass the bastard. Yum.
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Not us (people on PH) of course, but my point is that with no viable alternative in the way of public (ack!)transport, T2000 might as well be campaining to curb the use of electricity. Not many people are enthused by electricity, but we all rely on it.. just like we do our cars/motorbikes.
you've hit the nail on the head. About once a week I go fir a spin just for fun, for the hell of it. But 90% of the time I want to get from A to B as fast as pos as cheaply as poss. I had to go for a meeting to Brussels once - there and back in a day. By plane 350 quid, Eurotunnel train to Brussels 320 quid. They MUST be joking!! I live in Dover, I drove there ...
It takes me 10 hours to fly/take a train to my office in Germany. 6-7 hours by ferry/tunnel and car.
I can't get a bus from Dover to my house after 8 pm. I can't get a bus from my village to the next superstore. The list goes on and on ...
public transport my arse
Wheres my reefer?
WalterU
Edited by WalterU on Thursday 3rd January 20:41
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Did anyone see the piece on UK Today (BBC1's Digital Regional News Channel) about the old fella with the classic car who's going to the EU court of human rights over his right not to incriminate himself on the form which comes after being snapped by a gatso ?
The oik presenter who was interviewing him this morning started laying into him saying things like "You really are just trying to avoid being punished for breaking the law aren't you ?" and "You broke the speed limit so you're a criminal and you are just trying to weasel out of paying for your offence"
If I had a cheaper telly I'd have thrown my cornflakes at it...
I didn't get the presenter's name as I had to turn off before I exploded, but if I get it I'm going to start a campaign against him.
It was similar on "Radio5 Drive" - comments about too much time spent checking speed making a reduction in time to look/anticipate etc were responded to with a comment by the Beeb interviewer along the lines of "if you need to look at your speedo to see how fast you are going, you cannot be a very good driver", and other irrelevant drivel.
Unfortunately the BBC are a political organisation, and would be expected to tow the party line, regardless of common sense.
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These Cornflakes then, are they the soft soggy type with milk on or are they some special andti t2k armour piercing green seeking ones?
It was more the bowl whose impact on the telly concerned me..
Green Seeking Armour Piercing Cornflakes.. That is the most wonderful paradox...
"Green Activist beaten senseless with Ear of Corn in broad daylight"... "Police are seeking a man with bits of a cornfield stuck in the front air duct of his TVR"
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Seriously though if you get the scumbags name let us know please so I can harass the bastard. Yum.
Looking on BBCs website, the programme was 'Breakfast' on BBC2. Today's listing says the presenter bloke is called Bill Turnbull, but it wasn't him on yesterday cos I watched this morning and it was a different bloke..
The email address for the program is breakfastTV@bbc.co.uk
Thanks Carzee some anti green bile will wing its way BBC ward by tomorow.
Had another thought on the cornflakes though. What we need is a soggy cornflake gun to fire at speed camera lenses. I remember years ago a friend of mine got very drunk and decided he needed a bowl of cornflakes, the technicolour yawn consequences were stuck to the frozen ground outside for weeks., couldn't get rid of the buggers.
Something like a blunderbuss with a compresed air canister. Any ideas?
Had another thought on the cornflakes though. What we need is a soggy cornflake gun to fire at speed camera lenses. I remember years ago a friend of mine got very drunk and decided he needed a bowl of cornflakes, the technicolour yawn consequences were stuck to the frozen ground outside for weeks., couldn't get rid of the buggers.
Something like a blunderbuss with a compresed air canister. Any ideas?
Sorry to bring this back to the topic but, if you really want a laugh check out this piece: www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4312486,00.html
So, if you get caught in one of the areas participating in the scheme and the camera was not painted yellow, would you sue the Force concerned for perjury??
So, if you get caught in one of the areas participating in the scheme and the camera was not painted yellow, would you sue the Force concerned for perjury??
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