RE: 7 Years Jail For Texting Drivers Who Kill
Wednesday 16th July 2008
Practice safe textDrivers who kill while reading or texting could face up to seven years in jail under new guidelines, it has been reported. The Sentencing Guidelines Council, which is chaired by the Lord Chief Justice, has recommended that judges and magistrates hand out the tougher penalties.
7 Years Jail For Texting Drivers Who Kill
New guidelines mean a text behind the wheel could cost you seven years
Practice safe text
Very serious cases, where drugs, alcohol or persistent bad driving are involved, could warrant a jail term of up to 14 years, the council said. A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice said: ‘Ensuring drivers who cause death on our roads through bad driving are suitably punished is essential if justice is to be done.’
Ministers now want to see the two new offences – causing death by careless driving and causing death while unlicenced, disqualified or uninsured – pushed through as soon as possible. The council said it wanted to send a ‘clear message’ to those who text while driving that it will not be tolerated.
The new guidelines will be imposed on offenders sentenced on or after August 4 on existing offences. The guidelines state that if someone causes a death while texting or if they are distracted by a phone it will be treated as a ‘higher level of seriousness’ and they will face up to seven years behind bars.
Peter Neyroud, a council member, said of the new guidelines: ‘This has been welcomed by those representing families and friends of victims…There will be more custodial sentences and community sentences.’
Discussion
a) UP TO 7 years. so who will ever get 7 years?
Personally I think that no matter what you do, if your acts and omissions cause a death to other road users, the penalty should be the same, what is the difference? "Er I was texting my lud, and didnt see the ped,", "7 years my man"
"Er I wasnt paying attention, I was changing the CD in my multi CD player, didnt see the ped", "OK £1000 fine"................. but you see my drift.
I still think that if they increased the first offence to using a mobile in contradiction of the road laws resulted in a £1000 fine, it might make people think first.
Personally I think that no matter what you do, if your acts and omissions cause a death to other road users, the penalty should be the same, what is the difference? "Er I was texting my lud, and didnt see the ped,", "7 years my man"
"Er I wasnt paying attention, I was changing the CD in my multi CD player, didnt see the ped", "OK £1000 fine"................. but you see my drift.
I still think that if they increased the first offence to using a mobile in contradiction of the road laws resulted in a £1000 fine, it might make people think first.
Behavioural conditioning reaches frenzied proportions of gonad crushing orgasm.
I remember the glory days of 3 years back, flying down the outside lane of Highway X, a chuffing great Motorola welded to my ridiculously overcoiffeured bouffant, importing, exporting whilst all the while, slightly soiled £50s flying out the window to the tune of Land of Confusion by Genesis as my thoughts drifted away from the communists I was blsting past, worrying disproportionately about the shade of egg shell I should select for my new batch of business cards...
The scale of 'disconnect' between the law makers, the law enforcers and the poor saps who fund their deluded crusades is now immense.
Persuaded into pastures of totalitarian redress via 11 years of increasingly wretched, constantly ratcheting meddling, the establishment has completely lost it's sense of perspective.
These b
ds are succeeding in dehumanising us where Hitler and Stalin failed.
What an absolute fiasco. The Mob rules. Well done Brake and The Histrionics, another lasceration in the UK's dying rattle, freedom expunged by a thousand such cuts.
VERMIN.
I remember the glory days of 3 years back, flying down the outside lane of Highway X, a chuffing great Motorola welded to my ridiculously overcoiffeured bouffant, importing, exporting whilst all the while, slightly soiled £50s flying out the window to the tune of Land of Confusion by Genesis as my thoughts drifted away from the communists I was blsting past, worrying disproportionately about the shade of egg shell I should select for my new batch of business cards...
The scale of 'disconnect' between the law makers, the law enforcers and the poor saps who fund their deluded crusades is now immense.
Persuaded into pastures of totalitarian redress via 11 years of increasingly wretched, constantly ratcheting meddling, the establishment has completely lost it's sense of perspective.
These b
ds are succeeding in dehumanising us where Hitler and Stalin failed.What an absolute fiasco. The Mob rules. Well done Brake and The Histrionics, another lasceration in the UK's dying rattle, freedom expunged by a thousand such cuts.
VERMIN.
scare tactics for the youger generation who, i would imagine, are more guilty of texting whilst driving that anyone else??
the irony is that most people can probably text without even looking at their phone, whereas other distractions in the car such as changing a cd, or fiddling with the radio, or- and i make no apologies for saying this- women checking their makeup in the mirror, most definitely require a moments distraction from the road ahead
the irony is that most people can probably text without even looking at their phone, whereas other distractions in the car such as changing a cd, or fiddling with the radio, or- and i make no apologies for saying this- women checking their makeup in the mirror, most definitely require a moments distraction from the road ahead
red_zed said:
scare tactics for the youger generation who, i would imagine, are more guilty of texting whilst driving that anyone else??
the irony is that most people can probably text without even looking at their phone, whereas other distractions in the car such as changing a cd, or fiddling with the radio, or- and i make no apologies for saying this- women checking their makeup in the mirror, most definitely require a moments distraction from the road ahead
A moment's distraction, yes. Composing and sending a text would no doubt distract you for tens of seconds, maybe minutes. the irony is that most people can probably text without even looking at their phone, whereas other distractions in the car such as changing a cd, or fiddling with the radio, or- and i make no apologies for saying this- women checking their makeup in the mirror, most definitely require a moments distraction from the road ahead
I get vertigo watching people driving in a movie and not paying attention to the road(and they aren't really driving)!
JJ
covertjouster said:
"The council said it wanted to send a ‘clear message’ to those who text while driving that it will not be tolerated."
and
The Government says it wants to send a ‘clear message’ to those who drive that it will not be tolerated.
Lets hope they don't send those messages by text.and
The Government says it wants to send a ‘clear message’ to those who drive that it will not be tolerated.
From what I hear, composing a text would be classed and "dangerous" while a brief look at your phone would be classes as "careless".
Anything that briefly diverts your attention from the road ahead could be classed as "careless" (radio, sat nav etc).
Would this make any death caused by the diver looking at confusing signage or speed cameras "careless" too?
Anything that briefly diverts your attention from the road ahead could be classed as "careless" (radio, sat nav etc).
Would this make any death caused by the diver looking at confusing signage or speed cameras "careless" too?
jon- said:
covertjouster said:
"The council said it wanted to send a ‘clear message’ to those who text while driving that it will not be tolerated."
and
The Government says it wants to send a ‘clear message’ to those who drive that it will not be tolerated.
Lets hope they don't send those messages by text.and
The Government says it wants to send a ‘clear message’ to those who drive that it will not be tolerated.
Why is it unlicenced drivers & all that entails get let off so lightly.
derestrictor said:
Behavioural conditioning reaches frenzied proportions of gonad crushing orgasm.
I remember the glory days of 3 years back, flying down the outside lane of Highway X, a chuffing great Motorola welded to my ridiculously overcoiffeured bouffant, importing, exporting whilst all the while, slightly soiled £50s flying out the window to the tune of Land of Confusion by Genesis as my thoughts drifted away from the communists I was blsting past, worrying disproportionately about the shade of egg shell I should select for my new batch of business cards...
The scale of 'disconnect' between the law makers, the law enforcers and the poor saps who fund their deluded crusades is now immense.
Persuaded into pastures of totalitarian redress via 11 years of increasingly wretched, constantly ratcheting meddling, the establishment has completely lost it's sense of perspective.
These bds are succeeding in dehumanising us where Hitler and Stalin failed.
What an absolute fiasco. The Mob rules. Well done Brake and The Histrionics, another lasceration in the UK's dying rattle, freedom expunged by a thousand such cuts.
VERMIN.
Always a pleasure to read your coherent and intellectual posts Derestrictor I remember the glory days of 3 years back, flying down the outside lane of Highway X, a chuffing great Motorola welded to my ridiculously overcoiffeured bouffant, importing, exporting whilst all the while, slightly soiled £50s flying out the window to the tune of Land of Confusion by Genesis as my thoughts drifted away from the communists I was blsting past, worrying disproportionately about the shade of egg shell I should select for my new batch of business cards...
The scale of 'disconnect' between the law makers, the law enforcers and the poor saps who fund their deluded crusades is now immense.
Persuaded into pastures of totalitarian redress via 11 years of increasingly wretched, constantly ratcheting meddling, the establishment has completely lost it's sense of perspective.
These b
ds are succeeding in dehumanising us where Hitler and Stalin failed.What an absolute fiasco. The Mob rules. Well done Brake and The Histrionics, another lasceration in the UK's dying rattle, freedom expunged by a thousand such cuts.
VERMIN.
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