Barrister with, er, "interesting" opinions to stand trial
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Breadvan72 said:
Stupid plan is stupid!
Shrimpton is evidently bonkers, but he presents no danger to himself or others, so he's not sectionable under the MHA. Leave him alone. His delusional warblings perhaps add something to the gaiety of life.
Completely agree. Waste of time and money. Just trying to make sense of their stupidity. Two of my best friends are bi-polar, colourful types.Shrimpton is evidently bonkers, but he presents no danger to himself or others, so he's not sectionable under the MHA. Leave him alone. His delusional warblings perhaps add something to the gaiety of life.
ETA: You might be surprised at who is considered sectionable. Do you remember the IoW lady sectioned for refusing to make her husbands supper? That aside, I think some kind of ASBO could be applied. Nothing surprised me any more.
Edited by IanA2 on Thursday 1st May 12:34
IanA2 said:
ETA: You might be surprised at who is considered sectionable.
On the flip side, it's also surprising who is deemed "fit and well" and not sectionable. I know it's a tough call, but some decisions iv seen recently are nothing short of disgusting IMO. Edited by IanA2 on Thursday 1st May 12:34
And then to flip it back, it's a difficult call to make.Not everyone who wants to commit suicide is suffering from mental health, again IMO.It's a horrible situation for those suffering from MH, and an eg of the real victims/patients suffering at the hands of politics and red tape idiocy.
Breadvan72 said:
It is outrageous that the Bar Standards Board did not at the least suspend Shrimpton when he was convicted of the child porn offence several months ago.
I agree. The more interesting question, though, is how in the name of Blod the other conviction was reached?! He absolutely did believe that the threat was real. He's not sound. There is no other rational explanation. Proven to the criminal standard that he didnt hold that belief? Bah! I find it harder and harder to justify the use of jury trials on any basis other than 'It's constitutional and that' and/or something about jury nullification and/or the Nazis and/or Henry VIII.
Anybody know the reason it has taken so long to bring this case to trial?
The 'intelligence' was passed on months before the Olympics. The Games ended over 2 years ago.
Why is the pace so glacial? The waste in the MoJ must be costing the Treasury a fortune.
When our public finances are is such a mess we can't afford this.
The government's response seems to be to cut Legal Aid.
Penalising access to justice for the less well off instead of making the system more efficient.
The 'intelligence' was passed on months before the Olympics. The Games ended over 2 years ago.
Why is the pace so glacial? The waste in the MoJ must be costing the Treasury a fortune.
When our public finances are is such a mess we can't afford this.
The government's response seems to be to cut Legal Aid.
Penalising access to justice for the less well off instead of making the system more efficient.
Breadvan72 said:
The full loonabatics are here:-
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/22/secret-soc...
Cap'n, the tinfoil shields are failing! We cannae handle this level of Woo!
I just read that. He makes more sense than most/all of our politicians !!!http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/22/secret-soc...
Cap'n, the tinfoil shields are failing! We cannae handle this level of Woo!
Breadvan72 said:
The Court had no power to compel the man to be examined until he was convicted. The CPS suggested a psychiatric review much earlier on, but Shrimpton does not accept that he is mentally ill, although it seems fairly plain that he is.
I'm not entirely sure that's correct. How about sections 35 or 36 of MHA 1983? S35 allows for assessment and S36 for treatment, neither require conviction. Moreover, if the court has a diversion scheme, a MHA assessment can be requested by the diversion officer.Anyway you slice it, the man is clearly bonkers.
Truffles said:
Wow. Nothing about aliens though, I was disapointed. Or JFK.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff