Police detain 11 year of girl with a neurological disability

[julianc]

Steve18 said:

jshell said:

You boys aren't paid enough. I mean, I don't know what you're actually paid, but it's not enough! The majority of the population do support you.

+1 ... Thank you all

+2. I couldn't do the job.

[C70R]

julianc said:

Steve18 said:

jshell said:

You boys aren't paid enough. I mean, I don't know what you're actually paid, but it's not enough! The majority of the population do support you.

+1 ... Thank you all

+2. I couldn't do the job.

+3. Ditto.

OP is nothing more than a troll. Continually dodging questions, throwing abuse and drawing useless parallels.

[RobinOakapple]

C70R said:

julianc said:

Steve18 said:

jshell said:

You boys aren't paid enough. I mean, I don't know what you're actually paid, but it's not enough! The majority of the population do support you.

+1 ... Thank you all

+2. I couldn't do the job.

+3. Ditto.

OP is nothing more than a troll. Continually dodging questions, throwing abuse and drawing useless parallels.

+4 Agree about the OP and rolling about laughing at how his nasty little thread has backfired on him.

[davidball]

Fortunately there have been some thoughtful and constructive posts.

To those serving police officers. You chose the police force, no-one conscripted you. As for the bhing about the NHS, an organization dangerously overstretched, chronically underfunded and considerably less protected than you are. Get over it.

It is the lack of leadership by your superiors and their political masters that have stuck you between a rock and a hard place.

[Elroy Blue]

davidball said:

Fortunately there have been some thoughtful and constructive posts.

To those serving police officers. You chose the police force, no-one conscripted you. As for the bhing about the NHS, an organization dangerously overstretched, chronically underfunded and considerably less protected than you are. Get over it.

It is the lack of leadership by your superiors and their political masters that have stuck you between a rock and a hard place.

"Considerably less protected than you are". Seriously, where do you get your information from. You really are a bizarre individual.

(By the way, we don't have 'superiors'.)

[anonymous-user]

davidball said:

To those serving police officers. You chose the police force, no-one conscripted you. As for the bhing about the NHS, an organization dangerously overstretched, chronically underfunded and considerably less protected than you are. Get over it.

What funding reductions have the NHS had vs the police since 2010?

How are they less protected? I seem to recall the doctors striking recently. Can officers do the same over pay and conditions? The answer is 'no', BTW.

You are in no position to make like-for-like comparisons.

It's not 'bhing', it's talking about the cause and effect of the police doing the work that should be done by others and who the public should be receiving a service from. If you class that as 'bhing', it speaks volumes about your ability to understand and debate the matter.

[RobinOakapple]

I admire David (in a negative way) for his dogged determination and complete lack of shame.

[TheBear]

RobinOakapple said:

I admire David (in a negative way) for his dogged determination and complete lack of shame.

Me too. It's an amazing performance. I don't think I'd have it in me.

[davemac250]

Wow

I've read some ill informed crap on this forum over the years from the under informed and over opinionated.

But, really, to suggest that the NHS, it's doctors, nurses and staff are less protected than a police officer is the pinnacle.

You laughable little twerp.

[The Surveyor]

davidball said:

Fortunately there have been some thoughtful and constructive posts.

To those serving police officers. You chose the police force, no-one conscripted you. As for the bhing about the NHS, an organization dangerously overstretched, chronically underfunded and considerably less protected than you are. Get over it.

It is the lack of leadership by your superiors and their political masters that have stuck you between a rock and a hard place.

This is a very thought provoking topic, but it would be much more 'thoughtful and constructive' had you provided an alternative to the actions taken by the officers involved.

[JG5]

Edit: in fact, I can't be bothered.

[jamesson]

davidball said:

Fortunately there have been some thoughtful and constructive posts.

To those serving police officers. You chose the police force, no-one conscripted you. As for the bhing about the NHS, an organization dangerously overstretched, chronically underfunded and considerably less protected than you are. Get over it.

It is the lack of leadership by your superiors and their political masters that have stuck you between a rock and a hard place.

No police officer is bhing about the NHS. We're trying to explain that because they are also understaffed and underfunded a lot of their work falls to us.

Do you still need more time to come up with an answer as to how you'd deal with a violent 11 year old? If you took this long in real life she might well have killed herself by now.

I can see the headlines now: "Girl, 11, dead because psychology graduate police officer took over a day to mull over how to deal with her".

[Roscco]

My honest opinion and im prepared to be roasted, why the hell did her parent/guardian let her lose in the first place if she's known to be crazy?

It clearly states that being arrested seems to be a common occurance for her.

[RobinOakapple]

Roscco said:

My honest opinion and im prepared to be roasted, why the hell did her parent/guardian let her lose in the first place if she's known to be crazy?

It clearly states that being arrested seems to be a common occurance for her.

Because her mother is more interested in talking to the media about how she feels/felt than actually looking after her daughter?

The daughter has a solicitor, of course, a civil rights specialist. I don't know what he said to the BBC News yesterday because I turned the sound off (I was having breakfast at the time and didn't want any accidents).

[ikarl]

OP, there are times when you should step away from your keyboard, not because you're not going to win an argument but because youre not being very constructive and just irritating people. This is one of those times.

[JonV8V]

The only bit in the story I have concern over is the "60 hours without an appropriate adult". That feels too long for anyone.

The rest, and I should point out I did read a book on human behaviour once, seems to be a straight forward case of making her and those around her physically safe upon their arrival.

[C70R]

jamesson said:

Do you still need more time to come up with an answer as to how you'd deal with a violent 11 year old?

Of course not. He doesn't have an answer - he's much happier to sit behind his keyboard and throw virtual sticks and stones.

[Greendubber]

davidball said:

Fortunately there have been some thoughtful and constructive posts.

To those serving police officers. You chose the police force, no-one conscripted you. As for the bhing about the NHS, an organization dangerously overstretched, chronically underfunded and considerably less protected than you are. Get over it.

It is the lack of leadership by your superiors and their political masters that have stuck you between a rock and a hard place.

What planet are you on?

Yes I chose the police as a career, I joined to lock people up and deal with victims of crime not baby sit mental health patients because the NHS have ran out of staff and money.

Whilst I'm sat waiting for an ambulance to turn up because we've been sent in the mean time I could have been doing my actual job rather than being sat with a medical patient.

Whilst I'm sat for 12hrs waiting for a MH patient to be seen I could have been doing my actual job.

Whilst I'm looking for a 'high risk missing person' (mental health patient that the NHS have allowed to go for an unattended walk to the fag shop dispite being under a section) I could have been doing my actual job.

Its not lack of leadership by my "superiors" its a total lack of anything from the NHS who expect the police to do their jobs for them because unlike the NHS the police cant say no!!

So get off your high horse you total fist. You've yet again totally ignored the "what would you have done" question by doing fk all, you should work for the mental health services and finally get back to the police officers asking for you 3 days later!

Edited by Greendubber on Thursday 9th June 17:36

Edited by Greendubber on Thursday 9th June 17:37

[Pete Eroleum]

julianc said:

+2. I couldn't do the job.

I agree. Interesting though the thread is, it appears pointless to argue with someone who does appear to be quite nuts
to the casual observer.

[deltashad]

Steve18 said:

jshell said:

You boys aren't paid enough. I mean, I don't know what you're actually paid, but it's not enough! The majority of the population do support you.

+1 ... Thank you all

I'm with this 100 percent, everyone should respect the police, I had a bad experience which upset me but you have to factor in red tape bureaucracy, reduction of overtime, ever increasing paperwork, lack of personnel and resources etc. It's not easy being a bobby and without them we would end up with a private security system which without doubt would lead to corruption and misuse of the law.
Can't get over the fact they cut your overtime a few years back, I hope this has changed now, you don't get paid enough.