Soldiers vs Armed Police
Discussion
optimate said:
here we go spray and pray stratagey
they have fessed up to shooting 1 person already London terror attack: Police accidentally shot member of the public during response
50 rounds sprayed
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lo...
Considering they are single shot weapons, they'd be hard pushed to 'spray and pray'they have fessed up to shooting 1 person already London terror attack: Police accidentally shot member of the public during response
50 rounds sprayed
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lo...
Have you got your medal for being such an outstanding keyboard warrior yet?
Absolutely, 3 armed and rigged terorrists and 8 armed officers. I'd have preferred them to have put 100 bullets in each of the 
s.
It is terrible that a member of the public got shot and that will no doubt be investigated and I sincerely hope he is 100% ok afterwards but in the heat of the moment you cannot put any blame on the officers IMO.
s.It is terrible that a member of the public got shot and that will no doubt be investigated and I sincerely hope he is 100% ok afterwards but in the heat of the moment you cannot put any blame on the officers IMO.
Greendubber said:
Spray and pray?
50 rounds fired by 8 officers, still think its spray and pray?
Yes 50 rounds is quite unreasonable. 50 rounds fired by 8 officers, still think its spray and pray?
In the dreamland where armed thugs running around stabbing and killing people immediately stop running around, stabbing and killing and stop in their tracks and just stand there so they can get shot one round each for a total of 3 rounds fired.
Meanwhile back in reality....
I really f
king wonder sometimes. They killed or injured about 50 people and it was 8 minutes before they were shot dead. So they averaged killing or injuring somebody every 10 seconds, with the police firing 50 shots before stopping them; presumably while they were still trying to kill as many people as possible, at that rate of 1 every 10 seconds. And this isn't fking good enough for some people. The police should have shot less apparently. (Obv that last para not directed at you, Greendrubber)
Edited by creampuff on Sunday 4th June 19:38
Sprayed and prayed ?
Bull dust !
Police do not use weapons on full automatic .
If they did the round count would be much much higher .
Given the three were dressed in what turned out to be false bomb vests ,at the time the objective would be to prevent the detonation of the vests .
Unlike the movies one hit rarely stops people from movement .
I have had police weapons pointed at me and thankfully the officers were professionals and I reacted the correct way .
I was mistaken for an IRA suspect . The whole incident was over very quickly and lead me to change my appearance drastically because even I thought that the photographs they had were of me .
Bull dust !
Police do not use weapons on full automatic .
If they did the round count would be much much higher .
Given the three were dressed in what turned out to be false bomb vests ,at the time the objective would be to prevent the detonation of the vests .
Unlike the movies one hit rarely stops people from movement .
I have had police weapons pointed at me and thankfully the officers were professionals and I reacted the correct way .
I was mistaken for an IRA suspect . The whole incident was over very quickly and lead me to change my appearance drastically because even I thought that the photographs they had were of me .
optimate said:
50 rounds from 8 police = 8 empty clips =
they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
Anyone who knows me on here knows that I am the first one to criticise the police when they deserve it, but my god, the past few weeks have brought the best out in all the forces involved. They have performed magnificently and are beyond reproach.they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
Furthermore, no words can describe how I feel about these wicked, insane b
ds carrying out these acts in the name of Allah, Mohammed or whatever name you choose. We made the collosal error of inviting all and sundry into this country and we are seriously suffering the consequences now. While you are hiding behind your keyboard in your cosy house, these officers are on the front line having to deal with protecting the likes of you.You sir, are an asshole!
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optimate said:
50 rounds from 8 police = 8 empty clips =
they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
You must be trolling. Why do it? It just makes you look really thick. they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
I wonder if you're that daft in real life, away from your keyboard?
DuraAce said:
optimate said:
50 rounds from 8 police = 8 empty clips =
they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
You must be trolling. Why do it? It just makes you look really thick. they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
I wonder if you're that daft in real life, away from your keyboard?
I am impressed by the response of the armed units. Anyone with any comprehension of the processes from an emergency call to attendance will be equally impressed.
The short space of time to the resolution is little short of unbelievable.
Well done the armed units, well done those who stopped further carnage and well done those who set up the systems.
The guys had probably been working long hours in the days after Manchester. I wondered if there might be an incident in Cardiff around the match, what with it being some islamic religious day. I turned on BBC News to find one of their reporters had been involved in the incident. She mentioned 'five or six' and my first thought was that there would be many more. Then the news of the stabbings. I thought I was going to wake up to similar figures to Manchester.
There are stories of bravery. One chap chased the killers, one woman went to tend the injured, knowing that the killers were around. I makes me wonder what I'd do in such circumstances.
People who are stabbed with knives suffer horrendous injuries. The mental scars last as long and are often more apparent and difficult to cope with.
Sometimes I think it would be nice to be religious. We could pray for the casualties and kid ourselves we were doing something for them.
This one got to me, the fact that it started on my old 'ground' might be a reason. The crowds of an evening on the Bridge were generally very pleasant and chatty. There were a couple of times when there were photographic groups. Everyone enjoying themselves, including me.
It is a shame there is no god as it would mean that these derelicts will be punished forever for such horrific actions.
The person who dies or is injured is at the top of a pyramid. The ones below are those also affected by their deaths and pain.
Those who witnessed it and worked to help the injured will always remember. Some will have trouble coping.
I'm ever so impressed by the response of the Met but it doesn't take anything away from the carnage.
The short space of time to the resolution is little short of unbelievable.
Well done the armed units, well done those who stopped further carnage and well done those who set up the systems.
The guys had probably been working long hours in the days after Manchester. I wondered if there might be an incident in Cardiff around the match, what with it being some islamic religious day. I turned on BBC News to find one of their reporters had been involved in the incident. She mentioned 'five or six' and my first thought was that there would be many more. Then the news of the stabbings. I thought I was going to wake up to similar figures to Manchester.
There are stories of bravery. One chap chased the killers, one woman went to tend the injured, knowing that the killers were around. I makes me wonder what I'd do in such circumstances.
People who are stabbed with knives suffer horrendous injuries. The mental scars last as long and are often more apparent and difficult to cope with.
Sometimes I think it would be nice to be religious. We could pray for the casualties and kid ourselves we were doing something for them.
This one got to me, the fact that it started on my old 'ground' might be a reason. The crowds of an evening on the Bridge were generally very pleasant and chatty. There were a couple of times when there were photographic groups. Everyone enjoying themselves, including me.
It is a shame there is no god as it would mean that these derelicts will be punished forever for such horrific actions.
The person who dies or is injured is at the top of a pyramid. The ones below are those also affected by their deaths and pain.
Those who witnessed it and worked to help the injured will always remember. Some will have trouble coping.
I'm ever so impressed by the response of the Met but it doesn't take anything away from the carnage.
optimate said:
50 rounds from 8 police = 8 empty clips =
they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
it's a magazine not a clip and I'll not bother telling you how many rounds you can get in one.they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
If you're trying to be funny you're failing miserably. Troll somewhere else.
Osinjak said:
optimate said:
50 rounds from 8 police = 8 empty clips =
they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
it's a magazine not a clip and I'll not bother telling you how many rounds you can get in one.they shat there pants and emptied there guns and sprayed and prayed hitting a bystander as well
If you're trying to be funny you're failing miserably. Troll somewhere else.
What a of a trolling post.
Anyway, back OT. The 50 rounds were actually used on the last of the attackers who, it is alleged, was hiding. The first two scumbags had been dropped a few mins earlier with 3 rounds each from 2 officers apparently. That was coming from Met sources within a few hours of the attack. The last one went to ground with polis in pursuit, they got some rounds on his location to suppress him while other units were able to get into position to shoot him. No major dramas & standard procedure in a dust up if that is, indeed what happened.
of a trolling post.Anyway, back OT. The 50 rounds were actually used on the last of the attackers who, it is alleged, was hiding. The first two scumbags had been dropped a few mins earlier with 3 rounds each from 2 officers apparently. That was coming from Met sources within a few hours of the attack. The last one went to ground with polis in pursuit, they got some rounds on his location to suppress him while other units were able to get into position to shoot him. No major dramas & standard procedure in a dust up if that is, indeed what happened.
Loyly said:
majordad said:
Soldier spends a lot more time on the firing range so IMHO soldier.
I very much doubt they do. That said, a soldier with combat experience will probably be more assured on fire, despite that being a terrifying ordeal by all accounts. That said, relatively few armed services personnel have that sort of experience. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff