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[kevinday]

Dibble said:

Surely that would make sense, though...

If you mean what I think you mean, yes it would, but does not happen now.....

[Streetcop]

kevinday said:

Streetcop said: ca092003 said: So much for discretion then.... Might as well just replace you with more civilian camera operatives. Absolutely! No need for a police officer to be in the back of a van.... Sorry Gary, you are absolutely wrong on this one. A recent court ruling referred to an old case where it was defined that the initial impression of speed must be made by a CURRENTLY SERVING POLICE OFFICER. The speed measurement device is merely corroborative evidence and may not be used as primary evidence. Should you receive a NIP from a Talivan operation simply ask for the POLICE OFFICER's number, if no police officer then there is 'no case to answer'.

You get me wrong...I'm meaning that there isn't a need morally for a police officer to press a trigger and nothing else...ie a civilian should do the job with the necessary change in legislation...thus freeing bobbies to do other things..

Street

[kevinday]

Err nope!

Gary, the whole purpose of a scamera van and the Gatsos is NOTHING to do with safety. If it was I would not be on here 'mouthing off'

To me, anything which requires a re-think to the road non-safety policy currently in force is good.

You also have not thought through the implications of saying that a civvy can do the job. If it becomes permissible for a civilian to start a process resulting in the prosecution of a motorist for a speeding offence where would it stop? Let's say you have a spat with your neighbour, he responds by getting a speed measurement device and zaps you until he gets an excess speed reading, this is then prosecuted, is this a good idea?

Bring back real policemen doing a real job of policing, not robotic enforcement of an arbitary value.

[Streetcop]

So are you saying it's good to have BiB working camera vans?

Camera vans aren't going away and perhaps it's not right for police to be in them..

Street

[Pigeon]

I'd rather they were crewed by police officers, with a professional attitude, than civilians taken from the local NIMBYs.

[kevinday]

Streetcop said:

So are you saying it's good to have BiB working camera vans? Camera vans aren't going away and perhaps it's not right for police to be in them.. Street

I do actually believe they will go away, probably in the next 12 to 18 months.

But to answer your question, then yes I do believe they should be manned by BiB rather than civvy operators.






Gives you a chance of some more overtime SC

[Streetcop]

Pigeon said:

I'd rather they were crewed by police officers, with a professional attitude, than civilians taken from the local NIMBYs.

Anybody points and shoots...Unfortunately it doesn't need a professional attidude..i'm sorry to say.

[ca092003]

kevinday said:

I understand Dibble. I would like to see Dangerous Driving or DWDCA where the speed is actually causing a problem to somebody rather than the speeding. Also drop the automatic charge of Dangerous Driving if over 120 mph or whatever it is. Save it for a situation where the driving is dangerous, not just because an arbitary number was exceeded.

That way people would know WHY they were being prosecuted and we would get away from this ridiculous notion that people have that if they stick to the speed limit they'll be safe.

Given the choice of a quick FPN or a summons for dangerous driving, it doesn't suprise me that the BiB's issue the former rather than the latter.