107 mph on the M1
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supraman2954 said:
I have contributed in all of my posts, and have been questioned in just about all of my posts, which have been answered. If this isn't contributing then what is?
No you haven't. How exactly have you helped Broccers?
As I said before, you (we) should not have hijacked this thread.
PS, you didn't answer my (second to) last post
Ok, so my advice hasn't been what Broccoli wanted to hear, but I have given him good advice regarding the fact that the lady needs some education if she is uncomfortable at driving her new car properly (check one of my previous posts).
I guess we shouldn't have hijacked this thread and I apologise to everyone for that. However, this is a forum and I am allowed to express my views on things on here!
funkyrobot said:
Imagine you are travelling down a motorway at 100mph, you see a slight corner up ahead, you stick to your speed then as you come round the corner you see all of the lanes full with a car overtaking a lorry, that is overtaking another lorry and so on. The car in the outside lane is doing about 65mph. Just imagine if you come round a corner and have this infront of you at 100mph!!
Exactly the same as coming around a corner at 35mph and finding a stationary obstruction in the road.
Frightening.
superflid said:
Imagine you are travelling down a motorway at 100mph, you see a slight corner up ahead, you stick to your speed then as you come round the corner you see all of the lanes full with a car overtaking a lorry, that is overtaking another lorry and so on. The car in the outside lane is doing about 65mph. Just imagine if you come round a corner and have this infront of you at 100mph!!
Exactly the same as coming around a corner at 35mph and finding a stationary obstruction in the road.
Frightening.
FR is being silly. A slight corner on a motorway would give you hundreds of yards warning. Can anyone think of any motorway where there is less than a quarter mile line of sight ahead?
funkyrobot said:
Imagine you are travelling down a motorway at 100mph, you see a slight corner up ahead, you stick to your speed then as you come round the corner you see all of the lanes full with a car overtaking a lorry, that is overtaking another lorry and so on. The car in the outside lane is doing about 65mph. Just imagine if you come round a corner and have this infront of you at 100mph!!
Just imagine it at 140 mph - in the rain and at night.
So what ?
In any event, a swift press of the brakes will suffice.
Losing 35 mph is about one or two seconds work.
In other words, very easy for any driver watching what they are doing - and at 100 mph most Brit drivers *will* be careful.
funkiest robotic man said:
TripleS said:
Earlier today I covered a 20-30 mile stretch of dual carriageway (parts of which are of motorway standard) at 100-105 mph with one or two brief spells at 110, and if FR had been with me I doubt if he would have had any cause for concern.
I don't wish to be rude FR, but would you mind giving us some idea of your age and driving experience. After all, if some of us here are going to be criticised for our attitude and behaviour when driving, I think we are entitled to know something about the qualifications of our critics.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Liebster Triples.... check out the chirpy chap on Paul's siteIIRC he ist early 30s ...und experienced in his Passat und on a bike....
Wrong!
Ach Liebchen... claim to be purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-fektion on road...und getting
in nasty decade which beings mit 
../... f-f-f-four as first figure .... und they say this ist the age where I am supposed to be at sexiest.... und did have another k-k-kitten (but that was accident und result of effects of skimpiest frock und laciest stockings on a mad ted cat....) und had been misbehaving as per usual- und the sexy dinner was supposed to get me out of bother und not into bother funkiest robotic man said:
I am 26,
a mere boy then
funkieast robotic man said:
been driving on the road since I was 17 (off road since I was a lot younger), have pass plus and all that, had skid pan experience [quote]
Und our 17 year old son also has this
funkiest robotic man said:
raced go-karts a bit (hoping to move into cars at some point), never done a track day yet but hoping to get to some soon.
Und you should notprocratinate....this ist what willl make a man out of you.....
hope you have the bum to go damitMy big und very tame sister tells me she thinks she set your lycra alight at Christmas ....
funkiest robotic man said:
Broccoli, the Bora hasn't been used on a track day because I didn't buy it for that purpose. The amount of mileage I do a year requires something economical like my Bora. I would love to hoon around in an Evo or an Impreza but at the moment I can't do it due to budget issues. However as soon as the money is there i'm off to buy a second 'toy' car!
Und hopefully this will be soon.....as we need to baptize you mit fire......und exorcise the C+ demons outa you
My big sister came close.... the ice was melting ..... but the mod there had the hots for a bombed out brain ... we fear.... But as say ... she ist in training.....
unter normal long established persona.... und other fiery feline relation ist perhaps purring away on fullest pistons..... superflid said:
Imagine you are travelling down a motorway at 100mph, you see a slight corner up ahead, you stick to your speed then as you come round the corner you see all of the lanes full with a car overtaking a lorry, that is overtaking another lorry and so on. The car in the outside lane is doing about 65mph. Just imagine if you come round a corner and have this infront of you at 100mph!!
Exactly the same as coming around a corner at 35mph and finding a stationary obstruction in the road.
Frightening.
Add 65mph to your speed and its a whole different ball game isn't it!
dcb said:
Imagine you are travelling down a motorway at 100mph, you see a slight corner up ahead, you stick to your speed then as you come round the corner you see all of the lanes full with a car overtaking a lorry, that is overtaking another lorry and so on. The car in the outside lane is doing about 65mph. Just imagine if you come round a corner and have this infront of you at 100mph!!
Just imagine it at 140 mph - in the rain and at night.
So what ?
In any event, a swift press of the brakes will suffice.
Losing 35 mph is about one or two seconds work.
In other words, very easy for any driver watching what they are doing - and at 100 mph most Brit drivers *will* be careful.
Eerrrmm you would still be travelling at 105mph and closing in on something doing just over half of that??
funkyrobot said:
Add 65mph to your speed and its a whole different ball game isn't it!
Er, no. You need to drop 35mph.
As has been pointed out, 2 lorries and a car are going to be fairly easy to see at a long distance. There are no blind bends on motorways.
Hole, digging, stop.......
Vild'e'Cat said:
Vild'e'Cat said:
TripleS said:
Earlier today I covered a 20-30 mile stretch of dual carriageway (parts of which are of motorway standard) at 100-105 mph with one or two brief spells at 110, and if FR had been with me I doubt if he would have had any cause for concern.
I don't wish to be rude FR, but would you mind giving us some idea of your age and driving experience. After all, if some of us here are going to be criticised for our attitude and behaviour when driving, I think we are entitled to know something about the qualifications of our critics.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Liebster Triples.... check out the chirpy chap on Paul's site
Wrong!
Ach Liebchen... claim to be purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-fektion on road...und getting
funkiest robotic man said:
I am 26,
a mere boy then
funkieast robotic man said:
been driving on the road since I was 17 (off road since I was a lot younger), have pass plus and all that, had skid pan experience [quote]
Und our 17 year old son also has this
funkiest robotic man said:
raced go-karts a bit (hoping to move into cars at some point), never done a track day yet but hoping to get to some soon.
Und you should not
hope you have the bum to go damit
funkiest robotic man said:
Broccoli, the Bora hasn't been used on a track day because I didn't buy it for that purpose. The amount of mileage I do a year requires something economical like my Bora. I would love to hoon around in an Evo or an Impreza but at the moment I can't do it due to budget issues. However as soon as the money is there i'm off to buy a second 'toy' car!
Und hopefully this will be soon.....as we need to baptize you mit fire......und exorcise the C+ demons outa you
But as say ... she ist in training.....
Are you actually German if you don't mind me asking??
With regards to 'the' forum I don't know why they stopped your feline friends from posting. I found it amusing but, oh well, you know what its like on 'the' forum. I have just been moaning about cyclists jumping lights etc as it gives good cyclists like me a bad name, only to be shot down.
How about a Seat Leon Cupra R, any good??
funkyrobot said:
Eerrrmm you would still be travelling at 105mph and closing in on something doing just over half of that??
Doh.
To get from 100 mph to a required 65 mph takes a 35 mph loss. Easy.
To get to 65 mph from 140 mph takes 75 mph loss. Bit more difficult. Would take a little longer.
And before you side track into brakes, if you've got a car that can do 140 mph, you've got a car with brakes to cope with that kind of work.
dcb said:
Eerrrmm you would still be travelling at 105mph and closing in on something doing just over half of that??
Doh.
To get from 100 mph to a required 65 mph takes a 35 mph loss. Easy.
To get to 65 mph from 140 mph takes 75 mph loss. Bit more difficult. Would take a little longer.
And before you side track into brakes, if you've got a car that can do 140 mph, you've got a car with brakes to cope with that kind of work.
Errr, doh to you.
You gave an example in your post of travelling at 140mph, thats what I was working off.
superflid said:
Add 65mph to your speed and its a whole different ball game isn't it!
Er, no. You need to drop 35mph.
As has been pointed out, 2 lorries and a car are going to be fairly easy to see at a long distance. There are no blind bends on motorways.
Hole, digging, stop.......
Ok then, how about summits and brows of hills? There are lots of them on certain motorways in the country.
funkyrobot said:
funkyrobot said:
Add 65mph to your speed and its a whole different ball game isn't it!
Er, no. You need to drop 35mph.
As has been pointed out, 2 lorries and a car are going to be fairly easy to see at a long distance. There are no blind bends on motorways.
Hole, digging, stop.......
Ok then, how about summits and brows of hills? There are lots of them on certain motorways in the country.
I'l just nip and out check you haven't pinched my garden spade.....
Superflid said:
superflid said:
funkyrobot said:
Add 65mph to your speed and its a whole different ball game isn't it!
Er, no. You need to drop 35mph.
As has been pointed out, 2 lorries and a car are going to be fairly easy to see at a long distance. There are no blind bends on motorways.
Hole, digging, stop.......
Ok then, how about summits and brows of hills? There are lots of them on certain motorways in the country.
I'l just nip and out check you haven't pinched my garden spade.....
You own a spade????? I thought a spade is a tool that is too slow at making holes for you.
I thought you used dynamite because its quicker and more reckless at making said hole.
Right, science time.
Car A doing 65mph
Car B (ME) doing 100mph. (Not really officer!)
Car A is moving at 95 feet per second.
Car B is moving at 146 Feet per second.
Car B is closing on car A at 51 Feet per second.
Assuming braking down to 95Ft/sec takes 3 seconds (this is almost definitly an over-estimate), then Car B has closed on Car A by 150 feet. In reality far less as as soon as the car brakes the closing speed is less.
If you can show me one place on the motorway network where visibility is less than 50 yards then you have a point.
...and I've lived far too long to have been reckless.
>> Edited by superflid on Thursday 14th April 11:23
Car A doing 65mph
Car B (ME) doing 100mph. (Not really officer!)
Car A is moving at 95 feet per second.
Car B is moving at 146 Feet per second.
Car B is closing on car A at 51 Feet per second.
Assuming braking down to 95Ft/sec takes 3 seconds (this is almost definitly an over-estimate), then Car B has closed on Car A by 150 feet. In reality far less as as soon as the car brakes the closing speed is less.
If you can show me one place on the motorway network where visibility is less than 50 yards then you have a point.
...and I've lived far too long to have been reckless.
>> Edited by superflid on Thursday 14th April 11:23
superflid said:
Right, science time.
Car A doing 65mph
Car B (ME) doing 100mph. (Not really officer!)
Car A is moving at 95 feet per second.
Car B is moving at 146 Feet per second.
Car B is closing on car A at 51 Feet per second.
Assuming braking down to 95Ft/sec takes 3 seconds (this is almost definitly an over-estimate), then Car B has closed on Car A by 150 feet. In reality far less as as soon as the car brakes the closing speed is less.
If you can show me one place on the motorway network where visibility is less than 50 yards then you have a point.
...and I've lived far too long to have been reckless.
>> Edited by superflid on Thursday 14th April 11:23
You can put up as much science theory as you like but if you don't notice something up ahead until you are looming on it, you are still worse off than if you were doing 70mph.
The above theory is ok but you haven't included one useful fact, how close the following car was to the vehicles in front when the hazard was noticed and braking began.
Where is your bend, brow of hill, etc which would give less than 50 yards visibility? I think that on a motorway anything less than a couple of hundred yards would be extremely rare.
As for not spotting 2 lorries and a car until within 50 yards, you are joking?
You really are struggling now.
Your scenario can only exist in your own imagination.
60mph would be safer than 70, 50 safer than 60. What is your point?
As for not spotting 2 lorries and a car until within 50 yards, you are joking?
You really are struggling now.
Your scenario can only exist in your own imagination.
60mph would be safer than 70, 50 safer than 60. What is your point?
Barton Bridge on the M60 has about 50 yards visibility close to the top.
M60 clockwise from Hyde to Stockport has a very tight bend, probably about 100-150 yards visibility (and a 50mph limit).
Sections of the M6 through Stoke are very twisty and not suitable for 100mph+
Not all motorways are capable of more than 70mph.
M60 clockwise from Hyde to Stockport has a very tight bend, probably about 100-150 yards visibility (and a 50mph limit).
Sections of the M6 through Stoke are very twisty and not suitable for 100mph+
Not all motorways are capable of more than 70mph.
parrot of doom said:
Barton Bridge on the M60 has about 50 yards visibility close to the top.
M60 clockwise from Hyde to Stockport has a very tight bend, probably about 100-150 yards visibility (and a 50mph limit).
Sections of the M6 through Stoke are very twisty and not suitable for 100mph+
Not all motorways are capable of more than 70mph.
Thankyou Parrot, just having some trouble locating some info of my own, the help is much appreciated!
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