Police BMW engine issues

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Tom1312

1,024 posts

147 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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aeropilot said:
Surely any Police N57 engine cars are going to be at the end of their life anyway, they'd be nearly 3 years old now, so, with the newer cars having the B57 engine it can't be this, unless these are B57 engines and have inherited the same issue?
You'd be surprised. Lots of 66 plates still knocking about near me.

Well, there were until they were taken off the road.

carreauchompeur

17,863 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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We’ve got some 2015 530Ds, and even some 10/11 plates which are only really used for spares and TPAC training.

The 2015 ones are way more chuckable and fun than the newer XDrives!

aeropilot

34,861 posts

228 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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helix402 said:
aeropilot said:
Surely any Police N57 engine cars are going to be at the end of their life anyway, they'd be nearly 3 years old now, so, with the newer cars having the B57 engine it can't be this, unless these are B57 engines and have inherited the same issue?
RPU often run their cars a lot longer than 3 years hence they’ll be lots of N57s left. Afraid I don’t know if the B57 is reliable or not. I do know that I wouldn’t buy a BMW diesel after the M57.
I hate to tempt fate, but the 2017 F15 X5 40d I've had since new, has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.

Southerner

1,457 posts

53 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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In an interesting (sort of) twist to this, i was surprised to a Highways Officer in a fully marked up 21-plate X5 HETO-mobile yesterday, down here in Hants where the police have been long-time X5 fans but have recently moved onto VW hardware.

I've not seen a HETO in a BMW of any sort before, and it seems a particularly odd time to start using them now; BMW trying other avenues maybe? Does the HETO role not require the same all-day running that seems to have caused the RPU issues?

dmsims

6,564 posts

268 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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Probably got burned by the Disco's

RogueTrooper

882 posts

172 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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[Quote]Does the HETO role not require the same all-day running that seems to have caused the RPU issues?
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Not in the same way, no. They might be run steadily, or at tick over for some time, but they're not redlined in the same way as police X5s.

Depending on where you are in the country, it's not unheard of for traffic police and others to do 30-miles blue light runs. Fuel economy down into single figures or low teens even in a diesel!

whytheory

750 posts

147 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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Southerner said:
In an interesting (sort of) twist to this, i was surprised to a Highways Officer in a fully marked up 21-plate X5 HETO-mobile yesterday, down here in Hants where the police have been long-time X5 fans but have recently moved onto VW hardware.

I've not seen a HETO in a BMW of any sort before, and it seems a particularly odd time to start using them now; BMW trying other avenues maybe? Does the HETO role not require the same all-day running that seems to have caused the RPU issues?
Yeah they've bought a load of X5 and XC90 PHEVs to be more 'green', means it takes a bit longer to see whether it's police or not in the case of the Volvo.

808 Estate

2,145 posts

92 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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Southerner said:
In an interesting (sort of) twist to this, i was surprised to a Highways Officer in a fully marked up 21-plate X5 HETO-mobile yesterday, down here in Hants where the police have been long-time X5 fans but have recently moved onto VW hardware.

I've not seen a HETO in a BMW of any sort before, and it seems a particularly odd time to start using them now; BMW trying other avenues maybe?
Probably got a good deal on all the plod motors being returned. biggrin

Earthdweller

13,650 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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GTI Scott said:
The BMW’s being grounded nationwide was principally due to the tragic case of the officer in a Cumbria. I think BMW were treating that as a bit of an isolated incident until one of our 330’s spontaneously caught fire on the A627M and burnt to a crisp within minutes…

That’s M66 J2 if I’m not mistaken ?

There’s been more than one combust

There was 530d that lit itself up at 130mph on the M60 at Chadderton and a couple of X5’s on the network as well


Earthdweller

13,650 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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aeropilot said:
I hate to tempt fate, but the 2017 F15 X5 40d I've had since new, has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.
Yea but, have you done 250k in it flat out and thoroughly abused it ?

Maybe left it idling for 6 hours then jumped in it and reversed it at high speed for nearly a mile ?

Then stood awhile, then booted it to over a 100mph ?

Maybe not laugh

smile

Ps my 2015 BMW X3 has been completely faultless from new

Earthdweller

13,650 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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carreauchompeur said:
We’ve got some 2015 530Ds, and even some 10/11 plates which are only really used for spares and TPAC training.

The 2015 ones are way more chuckable and fun than the newer XDrives!
Yup 10 years or more for beat/CID cars

RPU 7/8 years usually ending up as spares or training cars at the end

M/Way 4 years and then disposed or used as training/spares

Assuming they didn’t die a glorious death in the service of the nation before then

I remember the Vectra’s being so worthless a load of them got cannibalised for spares then the remains sold off for scrap

carreauchompeur

17,863 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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It would be quite comical to see how new the 2015 cars are, but of a Triggers broom scenario with whole sides being replaced after collisions, numerous warranty engine rebuilds etc etc…

aeropilot

34,861 posts

228 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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OK........is this what the mass EGR recall was about 12 months ago...(when mine was done)....?

Greendubber

13,251 posts

204 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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carreauchompeur said:
It would be quite comical to see how new the 2015 cars are, but of a Triggers broom scenario with whole sides being replaced after collisions, numerous warranty engine rebuilds etc etc…
We had a 56 plate 330d touring that didn't have a single original panel on it, one of those cars that just kept on going and going. Shame they're not like that anymore.

RogueTrooper

882 posts

172 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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aeropilot said:
OK........is this what the mass EGR recall was about 12 months ago...(when mine was done)....?
No.

Davejag

12 posts

76 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Davejag

12 posts

76 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Earthdweller

13,650 posts

127 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Davejag said:
I’d consider a 389bhp X5 somewhat over the top for HATO needs

They certainly don’t need a £70k+ 150mph sub 6s 0-60 SUV

Jakg

3,487 posts

169 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Earthdweller said:
They certainly don’t need a £70k+ 150mph sub 6s 0-60 SUV
Who said they paid £70k for it?

808 Estate

2,145 posts

92 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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I thought they were going to Isuzu 4x4 pick ups after the Mitsi Shoguns reach end of life.