Tractor pushes parked cars out of the way

[Crackie]

JimSuperSix said:

popeyewhite said:

JimSuperSix said:

the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars.

No, this is what was said:

"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

You probably don't recognise that quote, because you've convinced yourself an entirely different scenario occurred. However that's what was said.

Incidentally I was on a climbing forum the other day and apparently the NT has also laid boulders down to control parking, in recognition of the sometimes inconsiderate parking blocking farms in the area. The car park, which has NT approval but is owned but the farmer, is not ticketed, is supposed to be £3, and works via an honesty box. That's right - people would rather park inconsiderately than pay £3, and that's assuming their honesty, which, given most cars were there for a Remembrance Sunday event, you'd think would be guaranteed... .

The farmer still hasn't been charged with anything.

Your quote is the exact same meaning, just using different words

Top trolling for a few pages there Jim; I've had my suspicions that you were just pressing buttons for several pages but well done

If you do sincerely think they have "the exact same meaning", then there is no point in further discussion with you until you interpret the English language the same way that the vast majority of competent English speakers do.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 24th November 14:07

[popeyewhite]

JimSuperSix said:

Your quote is the exact same meaning, just using different words

It doesn't carry the same meaning at all, even a six year old could tell the difference... . You use the word 'crash' which is emotive and factually incorrect and you use the word 'pause' as if to imply the farmer sat there considering whether to - oh I can't be bothered. As I've already said, it seems you've convinced yourself as to a version of events and you don't seem to care whether your version tallies with the facts.

[Hol]

Mr2Mike said:

JimSuperSix said:

Actually I live in the country, full of tractors no less

Do you regularly abandon your car on tiny lanes, blocking the passage of those tractors?

It might explain a lot, if he does.

[anonymous-user]

Hmm, I guess you lot can't read?

And I quote:
"In it, he wrote: "The big tractor carrying a huge sheep trailer left the farm at the end of the road. I then saw him stop along the road.
"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

What does the bit in (my) bold suggest to you guys? It means he paused, then continued. Whether he paused because he was stuck, or was considering what to do, we don't know as it doesn't say.

Perhaps you guys should try reading the quotes you apparently know about before commenting on what you think I have made up, hmmm?

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

JimSuperSix said:

Your quote is the exact same meaning, just using different words

It doesn't carry the same meaning at all, even a six year old could tell the difference... . You use the word 'crash' which is emotive and factually incorrect and you use the word 'pause' as if to imply the farmer sat there considering whether to - oh I can't be bothered. As I've already said, it seems you've convinced yourself as to a version of events and you don't seem to care whether your version tallies with the facts.

See my answer above. Crash is not emotive, it describes 2 things coming together. And as for "pause" - see the (full) quote above. Perhaps you should locate a 6 year old to explain it to you.

[SonicShadow]

69 pages on this st. fking hell PH. Sort it out.

[popeyewhite]

JimSuperSix said:

See my answer above. Crash is not emotive, it describes 2 things coming together. And as for "pause" - see the (full) quote above. Perhaps you should locate a 6 year old to explain it to you.

You're childish enough already. Here's some basic English for you

crash1
kraʃ/Submit
verb
1.
(of a vehicle) collide violently with an obstacle or another vehicle.

what is emotive language
https://writingexplained.org/grammar-dictionary/em...

HTH

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

crash1
kra?/Submit
verb
1.
(of a vehicle) collide violently with an obstacle or another vehicle.

So exactly the right word to use then. Well done, you've totally shot yourself in the foot.

No comment on how I supposedly made up the pausing part now that I've provided you with the full quote? What a surprise. But I'll accept your apology for being wrong about that too.

[popeyewhite]

JimSuperSix said:

So exactly the right word to use then.

The quote was "he just went through". No crash. OK? No emotive language. Do you understand?

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

JimSuperSix said:

So exactly the right word to use then.

The quote was "he just went through". No crash. OK? No emotive language. Do you understand?

No , wrong again - the quote was "He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming of worst."

Do *you* understand?

In my book this:
https://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2017/11/14/polic...
would be classed as a crash.

[Crackie]

JimSuperSix said:

Hmm, I guess you lot can't read?

And I quote:
"In it, he wrote: "The big tractor carrying a huge sheep trailer left the farm at the end of the road. I then saw him stop along the road.
"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

What does the bit in (my) bold suggest to you guys? It means he paused, then continued. Whether he paused because he was stuck, or was considering what to do, we don't know as it doesn't say.

Perhaps you guys should try reading the quotes you apparently know about before commenting on what you think I have made up, hmmm?

You might actually be serious............

Yes your bit in bold means he paused, then continued but sadly your previous quotes didn't say that did they. You claimed the witness said " paused for a second, crashed through, smashed through, ran off to hide in the farm " which is a load of fabricated embellishment from you isn't it.

Please go back and properly then indicate the passage in the original witness statement which indicates how long he paused for, how forcefully he moved the parked cars, how quickly he went back into his farm and what he did when he got there. ??

Your last sentence is comedy gold; "guys" were commenting precisely because they had seen that your made up nonsense bore no resemblance to the original witness' quote.

I'll leave you to your trolling Jim........have fun.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 24th November 15:40

[anonymous-user]

Crackie said:

JimSuperSix said:

Hmm, I guess you lot can't read?

And I quote:
"In it, he wrote: "The big tractor carrying a huge sheep trailer left the farm at the end of the road. I then saw him stop along the road.
"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

What does the bit in (my) bold suggest to you guys? It means he paused, then continued. Whether he paused because he was stuck, or was considering what to do, we don't know as it doesn't say.

Perhaps you guys should try reading the quotes you apparently know about before commenting on what you think I have made up, hmmm?

You might actually be serious............

Yes your bit in bold means he paused, then continued but sadly your previous quotes didn't say that did they. You claimed the witness said " paused for a second, crashed through, smashed through, ran off to hide in the farm " which is a load of fabricated embellishment from you isn't it.

There is nothing in the original witness statement which indicates how long he paused for, how forcefully he moved the parked cars, how quickly he went back into his farm and what he did when he got there.

Your last sentence is comedy gold; "guys" were commenting precisely because they had seen that your made up nonsense bore no resemblance to the original witness' quote.

I'll leave you to your trolling Jim........have fun.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 24th November 15:31

So your "point" is the difference between "paused and continued" and "paused for a second"?
Hahhahahah

I pointed out where popeyewhite was totally wrong, its not my fault he misread the quote, twice.

[Pooh]

Efbe said:

Mind you, moving from West Yorkshire to Perthshire next week and I hear it's worse

Where in Perthshire are you moving to? I live in Perthshire and do around 25k miles per year mostly on A and B roads and have very few problems other than the amount of mud that sometimes covers the minor roads.

[TooMany2cvs]

JimSuperSix said:

So your "point" is the difference between "paused and continued" and "paused for a second"?
Hahhahahah

No, you're the one assuming things.

Did he just pause for a moment then just go for it, hang the consequences?
Did he stop, get out, have a bloody good look, realise there was no other option, and go through as carefully as possible so as to cause as little damage as possible?

I know which I think the photographic evidence says is more likely. Look at that Focus estate.

[48k]

The real crime here is the number of people who have PH set to baby page setting. What's all this "40 pages", "66 pages" nonsense? It's only an 18 page thread.

[Crackie]

JimSuperSix said:

Crackie said:

JimSuperSix said:

Hmm, I guess you lot can't read?

And I quote:
"In it, he wrote: "The big tractor carrying a huge sheep trailer left the farm at the end of the road. I then saw him stop along the road.
"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

What does the bit in (my) bold suggest to you guys? It means he paused, then continued. Whether he paused because he was stuck, or was considering what to do, we don't know as it doesn't say.

Perhaps you guys should try reading the quotes you apparently know about before commenting on what you think I have made up, hmmm?

You might actually be serious............

Yes your bit in bold means he paused, then continued but sadly your previous quotes didn't say that did they. You claimed the witness said " paused for a second, crashed through, smashed through, ran off to hide in the farm " which is a load of fabricated embellishment from you isn't it.

There is nothing in the original witness statement which indicates how long he paused for, how forcefully he moved the parked cars, how quickly he went back into his farm and what he did when he got there.

Your last sentence is comedy gold; "guys" were commenting precisely because they had seen that your made up nonsense bore no resemblance to the original witness' quote.

I'll leave you to your trolling Jim........have fun.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 24th November 15:31

So your "point" is the difference between "paused and continued" and "paused for a second"?
Hahhahahah

I pointed out where popeyewhite was totally wrong, its not my fault he misread the quote, twice.

Jim, all we know is the witness' "I then saw him stop along the road."

Your "paused for a second"? is complete conjecture on your part.

You are clearly a troll.............and I'm disappointed in myself to have indulged your sanctimonious drivel for so long......

Edited by Crackie on Friday 24th November 16:24

[popeyewhite]

JimSuperSix said:

I pointed out where popeyewhite was totally wrong, its not my fault he misread the quote, twice.

JimSuperSix said:

the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars.

No witness statement said that. Feel free to link any source you like...

[popeyewhite]

JimSuperSix said:

In my book....

Uh-oh

[parabolica]

popeyewhite said:

JimSuperSix said:

I pointed out where popeyewhite was totally wrong, its not my fault he misread the quote, twice.

JimSuperSix said:

the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars.

No witness statement said that. Feel free to link any source you like...

God don't encourage him! JSS already has 105 posts on this thread alone, we don't need more.

[alabbasi]

Only read the first post but seems like they were obstructing the roadway and there was nothing else he could do. They'll be more understanding of their surroundings going forward.