The smell of weed.
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NickCQ said:
hucumber said:
Exactly. Drunkeness is far more anti social than smoking weed, its only conditioning that makes people think any different. Theres a good podcast by Professor David Nutt about alcohol, off the top of my head he said it costs the NHS 3 billion pounds a year
But this is an argument for more regulation of alcohol, not less regulation of weed, right?hucumber said:
Also the amount of tobacco you are allowing for is laughable. Most people use the minimum amount possible, a pouch of baccy goes a long way. You are suggesting that weed smoking are getting through 12-18 quids worth of baccy, a DAY?
Your maths doesn't work. Unlike pretty much every weed smoker I know.
People have a misconception that people who smoke don't have jobs but it simply isn't true.
Obviously not. £12 to £18 per day is total including weed, baccy, paper and filters. Your maths doesn't work. Unlike pretty much every weed smoker I know.
People have a misconception that people who smoke don't have jobs but it simply isn't true.
NMNeil said:
Much like removing the catalytic converters and mufflers from cars and bikes.
How's your tolerance for that degenerate behaviour?![biggrin](/inc/images/biggrin.gif)
The ones with an angle grinder and a jack? Honestly, hand on heart I advocate for immediate summary execution of them. I'm not joking.How's your tolerance for that degenerate behaviour?
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The ones being noisy because they think it's funny? Impound the vehicle.
There's an interesting thread about whether or not speeding is ever acceptable, and its an interesting parallel to this thread in many ways.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Edited by Mr_Megalomaniac on Friday 4th June 10:37
hucumber said:
NickCQ said:
But this is an argument for more regulation of alcohol, not less regulation of weed, right?
Sensibly, yes. But no one wants that, and its hard to justify the legality of one but not the otherNMNeil said:
eldar said:
A moderate cannabis habit is 2 to 3 grams a day at £6 to £8 a gram plus some rolling tobacco to smoke with so £14 to £26 a day. Likewise, hard to hold a decent job down, harder on benefits.
Looks like cannabis is the more expensive pastime by £1,000 to £1,500 a year, so all things being equal.....
2 to 3 grams is a lot of weed to smoke every day.Looks like cannabis is the more expensive pastime by £1,000 to £1,500 a year, so all things being equal.....
2-3g a day indeed. My friend would suggest you don't have a clue what you're taking about.
eldar said:
hucumber said:
eldar said:
Obviously not. £12 to £18 per day is total including weed, baccy, paper and filters.
Filters. I'm going to hazard a guess and say you don't smoke weed, do you? Nico Adie said:
An awful lot! My friend used to get through 3.5g a week and that was smoking a fair amount in the evenings (according to him), roughly 6-8 single skinners a night. A 30g pack of tobacco would last my friend over a week, and he got 5 packs of blue rizla for £1, so negligible cost there. He even used filters instead of a roach.
2-3g a day indeed. My friend would suggest you don't have a clue what you're taking about.
Seems to be around 60 years old, so yes, I would say he is probably speaking with zero knowledge here. And it shows!2-3g a day indeed. My friend would suggest you don't have a clue what you're taking about.
Windows closed and air con set up last night so no stink in the bedroom but it doesn't seem to be in the air again so probably smoked the entire stash the other night.
From my perspective, if you want to smoke weed, fine, thats your health, you're an adult and you can work out yourself whether to take that risk. If you smoke it in a weed cafe, again, fine, because I can make the choice to move away from you and not be subjected to it. When it's coming into my home, where I can't get away from it then thats not fine.
From my perspective, if you want to smoke weed, fine, thats your health, you're an adult and you can work out yourself whether to take that risk. If you smoke it in a weed cafe, again, fine, because I can make the choice to move away from you and not be subjected to it. When it's coming into my home, where I can't get away from it then thats not fine.
LukeBrown66 said:
I recall a drugs talk show years ago, interesting watch. Especially the bit where the guy who worked in a rehab centre said every single person he dealt with for years started out smoking weed.
That is enough for me to keep it where it is thanks
Illegal, still used anyway, creating a stigma so that people don't seek help and funding organised crime? That is enough for me to keep it where it is thanks
Great idea
LukeBrown66 said:
I recall a drugs talk show years ago, interesting watch. Especially the bit where the guy who worked in a rehab centre said every single person he dealt with for years started out smoking weed.
That is enough for me to keep it where it is thanks
The potential for cannabis to be a gateway drug is debated. The observation you recall is certainly true, however correlation does not necessarily imply causation and the reality is more complex than one dude’s observation. Additionally you could argue nicotine is the gateway to weed and it has been observed that alcohol consumption tends to precede use of either. It turns out that people whose personalities lean towards risk taking are more likely to experiment with drugs, both legal and illegal. That is enough for me to keep it where it is thanks
For most people cannabis does not lead to hard drug abuse; for a minority it probably does and there are other factors that might influence which people this might affect, including genetics, pre-existing mental health problems and social factors like upbringing.
I have observed that the only people who become alcoholics are those who drink booze. Therefore drinking booze is a bad idea.
Further reading here and here for anybody interested.
Edited by Jonny Wishbone on Friday 4th June 13:22
LukeBrown66 said:
I recall a drugs talk show years ago, interesting watch. Especially the bit where the guy who worked in a rehab centre said every single person he dealt with for years started out smoking weed.
That is enough for me to keep it where it is thanks
Yeah but they are only the people who can't keep things under control. Try going to any AA meeting and I bet most of them have smoked dope. If you are going to be addicted it will be to whatever you can get. One will not lead to the other.That is enough for me to keep it where it is thanks
It does not have to destroy your life.
I left school at 16 did an apprenticeship. I started smoking regularly when I was 17. by the time i was 20 I was smoking most days. This went on until I was 45. Everything was getting a bit silly so I quit. I held down good jobs progressed my up the corporate ladder to a management job in one of the most profitable organisations in the world. Not bad for a few CSE's and an o level or 2. I earnt enough to semi retire at 48 and completely retire at 55. I live in a nice 4 bed house in the country and live a very comfortable life. I am not a drug addict shaking in the corner begging for help. Do not judge people on something you have never come across. I know plenty of people like myself. And over the years have met plenty more.
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