Police BMW engine issues

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Earthdweller

13,653 posts

127 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Jakg said:
Who said they paid £70k for it?
No one .. that’s the base list price before options

Don Roque

18,025 posts

160 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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aeropilot said:
I hate to tempt fate, but the 2017 F15 X5 40d I've had since new, has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.
A car that leads a gentle life tootling to the shops and dawdling in commuter traffic is hardly comparable to the life a police car lives. For all the care put into looking after them, they are used hard and lead hard lives. I remember reading that the oil galleries in the old S60 T5 were redesigned after failures caused by police drivers going from nought to vmax as fast as possible after long periods idling. Just the sort of thing you'd never do in your own car.

Sheepshanks

32,981 posts

120 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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aeropilot said:
I hate to tempt fate, but the 2017 F15 X5 40d I've had since new, has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.
What kind of mightmares do you usually have with cars? I'd be pretty dismayed to have anything go wrong in the first 4 years of owning a car.

Southerner

1,459 posts

53 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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Earthdweller said:
Jakg said:
Who said they paid £70k for it?
No one .. that’s the base list price before options
Unlikely they paid anywhere near list for it/them, there was a post way upthread suggesting that BMW wanted police market domination and were prepared to go very cheap in order to get it, obviously HETOs is a much smaller market but presumably they'd be willing to do deals of some sort.

Alternatively, could this be redirected police stock that didn't reach the intended customer for obvious reasons?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Southerner said:
Unlikely they paid anywhere near list for it/them, there was a post way upthread suggesting that BMW wanted police market domination and were prepared to go very cheap in order to get it, obviously HETOs is a much smaller market but presumably they'd be willing to do deals of some sort.

Alternatively, could this be redirected police stock that didn't reach the intended customer for obvious reasons?
HETOs are weird as they don’t like anything the police like, the previous x5 was assessed by highways England as no good for lots reasons , the only one I could find is bmw wouldn’t play ball on warranty with regards to towing with a load cell. Rarely they will pull a lorry with a load cell to safety.

The disco 5 I am told is ok to 12tons buy JLR that’s buy a senior heto.

It’s weird as Mitsubishi was their main go to for traffic officer and inspectors hiluxs but with the. Pulling back from the us market they are in need of a new supplier.

They have got some outlander hybrids for 24 hour inspectors but they don’t get charged much in my area.

Volvo have supplied some xc90 and xc40 for inspectors and to be used as general pool vehicles for staff. They replaced Hyundais i40s, they’re all tracked and limited to 70 except hetos are limited as they can go over 70 in rolling road blocks etc, most of the, do 60 most of the time.

They are trialing the newer x5 hybrid as now the powers that be want to go hybrid.


Ted H

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230 posts

47 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-5965...

Another 330 with an engine fire? The news article says BMW and it looks like a 3 series, but can’t be sure on the model

Mr Tidy

22,677 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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It definitely looks like a 3 Series Touring to me.

330d Tourings and X5s (presumably also 3 litre TDis) seem to be the Traffic/Response cars in my part of the world.

But it does seem strange to see so many diesels catching fire. Presumably due to electrical issues as diesel isn't particularly flammable.

Tango13

8,495 posts

177 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Mr Tidy said:
It definitely looks like a 3 Series Touring to me.

330d Tourings and X5s (presumably also 3 litre TDis) seem to be the Traffic/Response cars in my part of the world.

But it does seem strange to see so many diesels catching fire. Presumably due to electrical issues as diesel isn't particularly flammable.
I used to know a Trapol that blew up a 535d due to engine oil being sucked into the engine on full boost. Could be an inaccurate or poorly calibrated oil level switch asking for an un-needed top up of oil with the resultant runaway at high boost/max revs due to over filling?

carreauchompeur

17,864 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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The fleet of 5 series is very rapidly being shed. A real shame as they are probably the best all rounders and just handle very well. 3 prematurely retired this week.

BMW apparently not supplying Police any more, is this true?

We have another 6 petrol hybrid V90s arriving soon. Very quick on the motorway but nowhere near as dynamic as the 530ds. A real shame. Apparently VAG lead time is a year ATM so it looks like we will end up with an all Volvo fleet frown

edthefed

708 posts

68 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Round here new 71 plate 5 series are appearing on fleet !

nordboy

1,520 posts

51 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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carreauchompeur said:
The fleet of 5 series is very rapidly being shed. A real shame as they are probably the best all rounders and just handle very well. 3 prematurely retired this week.

BMW apparently not supplying Police any more, is this true?

We have another 6 petrol hybrid V90s arriving soon. Very quick on the motorway but nowhere near as dynamic as the 530ds. A real shame. Apparently VAG lead time is a year ATM so it looks like we will end up with an all Volvo fleet frown
We've just ordered two A6's for the driving school, 42+ weeks lead time for delivery!!

carreauchompeur

17,864 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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nordboy said:
We've just ordered two A6's for the driving school, 42+ weeks lead time for delivery!!
Ouch.

Unfortunately our lot started ordering the Volvos so we wouldn’t be a single manufacturer fleet but we’re now entering the same situation!

One would like to think they’d order ahead to deal with next years retirements, but…

nordboy

1,520 posts

51 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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carreauchompeur said:
Ouch.

Unfortunately our lot started ordering the Volvos so we wouldn’t be a single manufacturer fleet but we’re now entering the same situation!

One would like to think they’d order ahead to deal with next years retirements, but…
We've got two 5 series on order, the two A6's and a XC90 (to replace the X5, which is pretty new but the ARV's are getting the XC90, so we need to reflect that), one, possibly two V70's and a 280bhp Superb, which has just arrived, I think we're getting that next month. Our DTU fleet will look pretty good by the end of this year I think.

4rephill

5,044 posts

179 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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Ted H said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-5965...

Another 330 with an engine fire? The news article says BMW and it looks like a 3 series, but can’t be sure on the model
Has the article since been edited? - I can't see any mention of BMW confused

(NOTE: I'm not saying it's not a BMW, just curious if the article has been edited for some reason)

Billyray911

1,072 posts

205 months

S16KBW

483 posts

66 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Billyray911 said:
Just came here to post this, looks like nothing new, just that someone has tipped off the daily mail that its going on

Lexington59

974 posts

66 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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S16KBW said:
Billyray911 said:
Just came here to post this, looks like nothing new, just that someone has tipped off the daily mail that its going on
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/26/police...

And the Telegraph…

pavarotti1980

4,994 posts

85 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Northumbria scrapped their entire BMW fleet and only now are they getting their swanky Volvo's


POIDH

832 posts

66 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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According to (recently retired) senior traffic officer I know, the 5 and X5 BMW's handled better and marginally quicker, but his older V70 and new XC90's were more reliable, more comfortable (important on 12hr shift) and bigger space.

A500leroy

5,175 posts

119 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Why the premium brand stuff? is it better value than ford/vauxhall/toyota/fiat, or do those brands not make what the BIB need?