Police and Security "Auditers"

Police and Security "Auditers"

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Flumpo

3,875 posts

75 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Interestingly a client I have has sent an email out to all staff and people like me who visit the site from time to time.

Basically it outlines who auditors are, what they are doing and what they can legally do. The advice is smile but don’t engage, be polite and leave them to it.

They have decided to go even further and reception staff have been given extra training to keep any interactions as boring as possible to make the videos of no value.

Their days must be numbered as everyone becomes more aware. I wonder if this is off the back of the big brother publicity. That might prove to have been an own goal.

thetapeworm

11,423 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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DJE Media @ Canary Wharf with the intention of filming the people who approach him and ask what he's doing rather than the place itself.

"private estate, public paths" seems to be the summary of it all.



A swarm of police arrive around 24 minutes in if you want to skip past the security guard bits.

808 Estate

2,150 posts

93 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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As he isn't filming for "business purposes", I presume he will donate all YouTube royalties to charity.

Edited by 808 Estate on Thursday 11th April 16:20

Adam32

138 posts

100 months

Monday 8th April
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What The Deuces said:
He's not though, he's monetising his videos, he's a business, and subject to GDPR laws himself, which he wantonly breaks every video.
100% DJ Audits would be classified as a business, but I don't see why he is not compliant with GDPR? From the face of it, he would argue that he is legally processing data in accordance with the provision of journalism.

Secondly, he does not go out of his way to film people, as if you watch the videos, it is people who approach the camera. If you don't want to be filmed, why approach the camera and continue to interact? Especially as there is nothing covert about his filming. He also seems to remain polite at all times unless he is met with aggression.

You may not like what he does, but that's the reality of living in a democracy.

aturnick54

1,107 posts

30 months

Thursday 11th April
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Adam32 said:
100% DJ Audits would be classified as a business, but I don't see why he is not compliant with GDPR? From the face of it, he would argue that he is legally processing data in accordance with the provision of journalism.

Secondly, he does not go out of his way to film people, as if you watch the videos, it is people who approach the camera. If you don't want to be filmed, why approach the camera and continue to interact? Especially as there is nothing covert about his filming. He also seems to remain polite at all times unless he is met with aggression.

You may not like what he does, but that's the reality of living in a democracy.
I've never understood people who will walk up to the camera and say they don't want to be filmed, and then proceed to stand there and argue.

If you don't want to be filmed, don't draw attention to yourself.

vxr8mate

1,655 posts

191 months

Friday 12th April
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aturnick54 said:
Adam32 said:
100% DJ Audits would be classified as a business, but I don't see why he is not compliant with GDPR? From the face of it, he would argue that he is legally processing data in accordance with the provision of journalism.

Secondly, he does not go out of his way to film people, as if you watch the videos, it is people who approach the camera. If you don't want to be filmed, why approach the camera and continue to interact? Especially as there is nothing covert about his filming. He also seems to remain polite at all times unless he is met with aggression.

You may not like what he does, but that's the reality of living in a democracy.
I've never understood people who will walk up to the camera and say they don't want to be filmed, and then proceed to stand there and argue.

If you don't want to be filmed, don't draw attention to yourself.
Deep down everybody wants their 15 mins of fame.

Mont Blanc

758 posts

45 months

Friday 12th April
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vxr8mate said:
Deep down everybody wants their 15 mins of fame.
That really isn't true.

Somebody like myself would do pretty much anything to avoid any publicity, or my recorded or photographed image being distributed. There are plenty of people like me. I'm the sort of person who quietly disappears when I see someone taking photos in my direction.

The irony here is that I love photography, and plenty of people end up featuring in my photos.

jondude

2,355 posts

219 months

Friday 12th April
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The chap DJ Audits advertises his videos with previews of the conflict only. The video starts with a preview of the conflict only.

For me the way you quickly see it is all about wanting and needing conflict is when he does fly the drone, you can feel the lethargy and almost total lack of interest. No real preparation, no decent information given - no purpose to it. The drone footage is the sideshow.

This notion of goading people for YT views and money has created dangerous situations where dashcam owners for example, send in footage that is supposed to show others driving badly, yet just shows what an utter liability the dashcam owner is to us all. They drive faster at danger, rather than try to avoid the collision.

What is of course the saddest part, is they get paid for this.





Mont Blanc

758 posts

45 months

Friday 12th April
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jondude said:
The chap DJ Audits advertises his videos with previews of the conflict only. The video starts with a preview of the conflict only.

For me the way you quickly see it is all about wanting and needing conflict is when he does fly the drone, you can feel the lethargy and almost total lack of interest. No real preparation, no decent information given - no purpose to it. The drone footage is the sideshow.

This notion of goading people for YT views and money has created dangerous situations where dashcam owners for example, send in footage that is supposed to show others driving badly, yet just shows what an utter liability the dashcam owner is to us all. They drive faster at danger, rather than try to avoid the collision.

What is of course the saddest part, is they get paid for this.
It's nothing new.

All those 'Police Camera Action' shows from the 1990's to the present day always focus on the conflict, the confrontations, and the action. It's why people watch them.

The auditors have just tapped into the same market. People want to watch videos of humans arguing. If it involves a member of the public arguing with the Police, then the viewing figures go up even more.

MYOB

4,854 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I’m not big on social media and have only just discovered these “auditors”. They are highly addictive and some of them are extremely hilarious. But extremely worrying to see abuse of powers by certain people, especially the police.

I genuinely have never heard of these “auditors” until last weekend.

Rusty Old-Banger

4,233 posts

215 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Nah, they're antagonising pricks, goading people who are just trying to do their jobs.

vikingaero

10,561 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I watched a couple of videos in the beginning and now steadfastly refuse to click on anymore because I don't want them to be monetised.

There's barely more difference between an a-hole "auditor" and that Mizzy kid when went around barging into peoples homes.

Unreal

3,730 posts

27 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
Nah, they're antagonising pricks, goading people who are just trying to do their jobs.
They can be but I see far more cases of obnoxious Police and security people trying to bully someone into stopping a lawful activity.

trickywoo

11,980 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Unreal said:
They can be but I see far more cases of obnoxious Police and security people trying to bully someone into stopping a lawful activity.
Exactly. If they are engaged in a lawful activity but someone doesn't like it they should put their effort into changing the law and not trying to stop that lawful activity.

The police seem far to keen to pander to feelings rather than the law.


Rusty Old-Banger

4,233 posts

215 months

Tuesday 21st May
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trickywoo said:
Unreal said:
They can be but I see far more cases of obnoxious Police and security people trying to bully someone into stopping a lawful activity.
Exactly. If they are engaged in a lawful activity but someone doesn't like it they should put their effort into changing the law and not trying to stop that lawful activity.

The police seem far to keen to pander to feelings rather than the law.
That will be why DJ Audits (or was it PJ audits? The guy that sells mobile phone chargers) gets all stty when people started "auditing" his shop?

MYOB

4,854 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st May
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trickywoo said:
Unreal said:
They can be but I see far more cases of obnoxious Police and security people trying to bully someone into stopping a lawful activity.
Exactly. If they are engaged in a lawful activity but someone doesn't like it they should put their effort into changing the law and not trying to stop that lawful activity.

The police seem far to keen to pander to feelings rather than the law.
Agreed. It’s extremely worrying but not surprising to see such a low standard of policing and other security matters.

I like the “walk of shame” some of them do when they realise they are powerless to take any actions.

Nice to see some positive reactions too from the good eggs!

Unreal

3,730 posts

27 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
trickywoo said:
Unreal said:
They can be but I see far more cases of obnoxious Police and security people trying to bully someone into stopping a lawful activity.
Exactly. If they are engaged in a lawful activity but someone doesn't like it they should put their effort into changing the law and not trying to stop that lawful activity.

The police seem far to keen to pander to feelings rather than the law.
That will be why DJ Audits (or was it PJ audits? The guy that sells mobile phone chargers) gets all stty when people started "auditing" his shop?
He may well be a hypocrite for all I know but it doesn't alter the fact that too many Police and security people try and act outside of the law.

You occasionally see a copper who understands the situation. It's perfectly reasonable and understandable to ask someone why they are filming in sensitive locations and they should use that as an opportunity to assess the situation not start going down the route of asking for names and addresses, etc. There are several examples of it being handled perfectly. It's usually the older officers who can read the auditor like a book. They don't rise to any bait and can politely make the auditor look like the saddo they often are. "That's an interesting hobby, photographing industrial sites and distribution depots. Have you been doing it long?" biggrin There will be more but they won't get uploaded.

MrBogSmith

2,189 posts

36 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Living the dream being an 'auditor'. What a joyful life it must be.

On the other hand the police shouldn't get caught out by them.

mickythefish

321 posts

8 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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MrBogSmith said:
Living the dream being an 'auditor'. What a joyful life it must be.

On the other hand the police shouldn't get caught out by them.
i watched one, my taxes pay your wages, the auditor was on benefits, so technically both employed by the government. the best freedom fighters are paid by the state i find

Cyberprog

2,204 posts

185 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I always enjoy watching the videos tbh - it's interesting to see how people deal with the interaction, and how wrong people can be sometimes!