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Monkeylegend said:
Does it really irk you that much that he got in front of you? I bet you speeded up to block the undertake although you will say you didn't.
I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
You can see from the two screen shots posted that you closed the gap to block the undertake. The van in front in lane 3 is further away from you as WVM is coming up beside you. By the time he cuts in you can clearly read what's on the back of the van in front, you have closed the gap quite a bit.I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
Monkeylegend said:
JimSuperSix said:
Monkeylegend said:
VeeFource said:
Totally wrong. The cause of everyone bunching up in the outside lane is mostly the selfish 
s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.
What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
But the middle lane was clear hence WVM using it to undertake you.s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
I would wager WVM was reacting to the OP's driving over a longer period than we have knowledge of.
OP might be able to prove this to be wrong by showing the footage building up to the undertake.
Don't you just love all this wild speculation, PH is very good at it
true enough. Although based on what I've seen them do it's highly likely WVM was a knuckle-dragging ape with a huge ego trying to make a point, but only the OP knows for sure.Monkeylegend said:
Monkeylegend said:
Does it really irk you that much that he got in front of you? I bet you speeded up to block the undertake although you will say you didn't.
I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
You can see from the two screen shots posted that you closed the gap to block the undertake. The van in front in lane 3 is further away from you as WVM is coming up beside you. By the time he cuts in you can clearly read what's on the back of the van in front, you have closed the gap quite a bit.I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
JimSuperSix said:
Monkeylegend said:
JimSuperSix said:
Monkeylegend said:
VeeFource said:
Totally wrong. The cause of everyone bunching up in the outside lane is mostly the selfish s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.
What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
But the middle lane was clear hence WVM using it to undertake you.s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
I would wager WVM was reacting to the OP's driving over a longer period than we have knowledge of.
OP might be able to prove this to be wrong by showing the footage building up to the undertake.
Don't you just love all this wild speculation, PH is very good at it
true enough. Although based on what I've seen them do it's highly likely WVM was a knuckle-dragging ape with a huge ego trying to make a point, but only the OP knows for sure.meatballs said:
JimSuperSix said:
Or maybe the OP was already gaining on the van in front, or maybe the van in front was slowing down....but no it must be that the OP floored it to block the overtake, because PH.
Stop applying logic to the situation EVERYTHING.
my cat just vomited, thats your fault too.
JimSuperSix said:
Of course its a queue - its a queue to get past the slower moving vehicles ahead in lanes 1 and 2. Guess what happens if you moved left every time there was a car sized gap in the middle lane queue - the car behind will accelerate to fill the gap you just vacated and 5 seconds later when you come up behind the next car in lane 2 you are stuck there and have to force your way back out into lane 3 because nobody will ever let you out, which then leads to road rage, vehicles too close, braking and accelerating etc.
So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
Then the outside lane becomes the inside lane.That's why the rules are like they are. Logic in an attempt to control fools.So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
VeeFource said:
can't remember said:
Christ on a bike. Look how sharp everything is. Look at the vans wheels. That's not 60mph, it's basically standing traffic.
That's why you're not getting the video.
Urghh, why did I check this thread again?! It's a good camera (thank Aldi).That's why you're not getting the video.
Edited by can't remember on Saturday 20th July 12:04
Here's 4 seconds earlier..
What a proper flipping Road Captain you are.
Good call. Time to take a final (probably) bowJimSuperSix said:
Monkeylegend said:
Monkeylegend said:
Does it really irk you that much that he got in front of you? I bet you speeded up to block the undertake although you will say you didn't.
I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
You can see from the two screen shots posted that you closed the gap to block the undertake. The van in front in lane 3 is further away from you as WVM is coming up beside you. By the time he cuts in you can clearly read what's on the back of the van in front, you have closed the gap quite a bit.I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
You can imagine the scenario, OP is driving along in L3 maintaining a 2 second gap. WVM thinks he should get closer so starts to tailgate OP, who responds by slowing down to teach WVM a lesson.
WVM decides to take the inside line to undertake, OP doesn't like this so speeds up to close the gap meaning WVM cuts into a much smaller gap than was there when he started the undertake making it look like he has deliberately cut OP up.
Oh I have a vivid imagination
JimSuperSix said:
Funny thing is every single one of the usual OP-bashing fools (that KNOW exactly what happened from 1 static pic) daily do just what they are berating the OP for supposedly doing. None of them would have moved to the centre lane in that queue, they all would have been equally annoyed when van-man did what he did, and they all would have accelerated to close the gap also.
But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
Let’s not forget it’s the OP who is berating the white van driver by creating this thread. No one has asked him to. He deserves to hear everyone’s opinions. But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
Anyone with half a brain cell can see it is CLEAR that the OP has sped up to close the gap, or made some other (perhaps even minor) error within the footage which he doesn’t want to show us... because it will weaken his argument. He desperately wants reassurance that he was in the right when the nasty white van man cut him up. He was hoping he would get the backing of PH by just providing the stills but this has completely backfired.
This is why he won’t upload the full footage, but instead will take the time to take stills from the footage in a (failing) attempt to strengthen his argument.
VeeFource said:
roadsmash said:
OP, show us the fking video.
What's the point? I've described exactly what's happened and everyone who's given an intelligent response is saying to let it go.king video.Some of the responses on here based on that image means it's just going to end up with more stupid comments about how I should be using the Inside lane to get past people which I really can't be bothered to reason with. Also if I upload it on here I can no longer submit it if I do change my mind (see earlier post).
Just prove it.
You’re not going to submit it to the police, let’s be honest, because you’ll just incriminate yourself too!
Prove me wrong!
JimSuperSix said:
Of course its a queue - its a queue to get past the slower moving vehicles ahead in lanes 1 and 2. Guess what happens if you moved left every time there was a car sized gap in the middle lane queue - the car behind will accelerate to fill the gap you just vacated and 5 seconds later when you come up behind the next car in lane 2 you are stuck there and have to force your way back out into lane 3 because nobody will ever let you out, which then leads to road rage, vehicles too close, braking and accelerating etc.
So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
In the real world, my one. I tend to stay in lane 1 in heavy traffic and undertake all the hoggers in 2 and 3. Just a little bit faster than those I'm undertaking.So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
Can't be arsed with L3 when traffic is heavy. More often than not I make better progress.
Not sanctimonious. Just smart. And relaxed.
(And it's not a queue where you wait patiently for your go. If you are not overtaking at and decent speed move over and fill the unused motorway so everyone can move along smoother and faster)
Graveworm said:
citizensm1th said:
Yes that says :Do not move to a lane to the left to overtake - Van did that:
Along with you can only pass in congested conditions to keep up with traffic in left-hand lanes. Nearside traffic was travelling more slowly, van was travelling faster than the prevailing traffic. So not in any way "Keeping up" nor in keeping with the highway code by any reading of it.
I have added the CPS view and The RAC.
However, judging from the photo, many of us would be nowhere near that outside lane in these circumstances. I, for one, in seeing this situation develop would make sure that I followed the rule about keeping left. I would then not be too distraught if by keeping up with the traffic I found myself passing traffic in outer lanes....
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