Can a school confiscate a mobile phone for more than a day?
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jazzyjeff said:
R0G said:
give them back their property when school ends unless the parent gives permission to do other
We haven't established yet that this isn't the case?R0G said:
On the way home you find that you need the phone to make an emergency call
Your parents state that you have a phone for this puprose as well as other uses
The school has kept your phone
To my mind the school has now put you in danger
Oh FFS. Yes it's lethal having your phone taken off you. Before 1994 60% of children died on their way home from school through an inability to make emergency calls.Your parents state that you have a phone for this puprose as well as other uses
The school has kept your phone
To my mind the school has now put you in danger
Oh and OP - haven't you got some homework to do?
fking school kids moaning about the teacher taking their phone off them. FFS
Kevin VRs said:
It is somewhat simple if you think of the definition of theft.
Intention to permanently deprive somebody of something that belongs to them.
They must return it or they can be charged with theft.
But would in this case retention beyond school hours be considered an "intention to permanently deprive"? Intention to permanently deprive somebody of something that belongs to them.
They must return it or they can be charged with theft.
What if the teacher said "you can have it back at the end of the week"?
kamilb1998 said:
No phone calls home or anything, she just said she can confiscate it because students are not allowed to use them in school.
That may be the case. But do you know for certain that your parents don't have an agreement with the school to hold onto the phone "on their behalf" whilst they aren't present? Have you asked your parents about it? (I suspect not )Mr Gearchange said:
R0G said:
On the way home you find that you need the phone to make an emergency call
Your parents state that you have a phone for this puprose as well as other uses
The school has kept your phone
To my mind the school has now put you in danger
Oh FFS. Yes it's lethal having your phone taken off you. Before 1994 60% of children died on their way home from school through an inability to make emergency calls.Your parents state that you have a phone for this puprose as well as other uses
The school has kept your phone
To my mind the school has now put you in danger
Oh and OP - haven't you got some homework to do?
fking school kids moaning about the teacher taking their phone off them. FFS
doogz said:
bigdods said:
R0G said:
To my mind the school has now put you in danger
How did we ever survive all these dangers before mobile phones were invented. If either of my sons decide to use their phones in class and have them confiscated then I am happy for the school to keep it for a day to teach them a lesson.They have phones on the strict understanding that they do not use them in class, if that rule is broken they will also find a punishment waiting for them at home.
You think you'd still have that point of view? You think the fact that you never had one when you were that age makes any difference? Or would you be utterly and absolutely furious that your kid is lying in hospital, having got a complete kicking, and couldn't phone you for help?
kamilb1998 said:
jazzyjeff said:
If they all spend their class time messing with their phones, it's no wonder she has no control...
They don't, and I'm in one of the top sets. The thing is she makes her lessons so incredibly boring students tend to start getting bored after a while and go into private conversations. I admit I am guilty of this on some occasions. This does disrupt her lessons but she has no control over anyone and can't stop them.jazzyjeff said:
That may be the case. But do you know for certain that your parents don't have an agreement with the school to hold onto the phone "on their behalf" whilst they aren't present? Have you asked your parents about it? (I suspect not )
I've spoken to them about it but they said there is no agreement that they know of. I did try ringing mum from a friend's phone to get her to come in and get it back but she was in a meeting.kamilb1998 said:
I didn't mean for this post to come across as me moaning for having my phone taken off me. I understand that I shouldn't use it, I was just curious as to whether or not they can decide not to give your phone back to you at the end of the school day.
I think it's fair to separate the discussion of the punishment (and if it is due) vs the legal question posed by the OP... They are separate issues.OP - kudos to you for reaching out to understand your rights and engage in the discussion.
Well in my day we didn't have mobile phones, instead we had two tin cans connected by a piece of string. I had mine confiscated once, and they kept them for the whole term, which was pretty inconsiderate seeing as I used them as nunchuks to fight off wolves and bears on my 14-mile trek home after school. One kid did insist on getting his back, however, so they boxed his ears with them, and the ringing in his ears was so bad he didn't hear the stagecoach coming as he stepped out in the road....
Moral of the story - you broke the rules, no-one likes a barrack-room lawyer, you are merely inviting them to impose an alternative punishment.
Kids nowadays, eh?
Moral of the story - you broke the rules, no-one likes a barrack-room lawyer, you are merely inviting them to impose an alternative punishment.
Kids nowadays, eh?
doogz said:
carmonk said:
doogz said:
carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
Do you take a phone to work? No?doogz said:
carmonk said:
doogz said:
carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
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