Has Anyone Actually Bothered To Read "All The Way"

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

Don't be tiresome.

PetrolTed said:

You misquoted ATG.

Jeez!!!

In fact, have you even bothered to read the post you are commenting on?

In fact, in fact, have you even got beyond the first line?

bogush said:

I've just reread your post, ATG, and you demonstrate the point I'm trying to make perfectly: ATG might as well have said

Which bit of

bogush said:

I've just reread your post, ATG, and you demonstrate the point I'm trying to make perfectly:

In the context of:

bogush said:

Read the article and weep: Substitute cars for guns and it could be describing the politics of motoring. And unfortunately you can substitute anything you want for cars and it still rings true.

And:

bogush said:

ATG said: I think that essay gives an interesting insight into the mindset of the NRA........ I think you've missed the point, ATG.

Are you struggling with ?!?!?!?

[bogush]

And they want me to reason with people !?!?!?!?!?

[PetrolTed]

I'm struggling with you flying off the handle all the time.

[bogush]

Lookee here!

I'm going to misquote Pigeon now:

Pigeon might as well have said:

I don't think the situations are necessarily comparable though. Nobody (apart from the public services and transport companies) actually needs a motor vehicle - a motor vehicle in private ownership is just a toy; if all civilian cars turned to cheese tomorrow it wouldn't make any real difference. If all cars turned to cheese tomorrow, the country wouldn't collapse. Even without massively expanded public transport this would still be the case. There will always be a need for public transport - it's no more likely to disappear than supermarkets.

So Ban me!


Why do I waste my time?!?!?!?!

[PetrolTed]

Personally I'd have a lot more respect for your opinions if you could present them calmly.

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

I'm struggling with you flying off the handle all the time.

And I'm struggling with people insulting me without even the courtesy of reading what I have posted.

Have you actually read any of my "flying off the handle" posts?

Because if you had you would be apologising, not adding fuel to the fire.

I've not noticed an apology anywhere.

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

Personally I'd have a lot more respect for your opinions if you could present them calmly.

When I did you accused me of misquoting.

Try reading the thread.

[PetrolTed]

Please come back when you've calmed down.

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

Please come back when you've calmed down.

Please comment on my posts when you have actually read them.

[TripleS]

This is going to end in tears I'm afraid, which is unfortunate, as I tend to agree with some of what bogush is saying.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[PetrolTed]

I have no issue with what he's saying, I would just like things to be discussed in a calm manner.

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

Please come back when you've calmed down.

....999, 1000, and breath.......

OK, when you and ATG and Pigeon finally get round to reading the article I pointed you towards (when you find you have plenty of time on your hands to read it on the bus, because cars have been banned), if you manage to finally get the point it is trying to make, you will suddenly realise that you and ATG and Pigeon and Streetcop and tvrgit and marcos maniac and all the rest are the various factions of the gun lobby.

And I'm the writer of an essay explaining how you are helping to push motoring down the slippery slope.

You might even finally realise that, as I'm not an academic carrying out a post-mortem, but someone watching you playing on the track while the loco bears down on you, it was perfectly reasonable for me to lose my rag when you not only ignored my warnings, but hurled abuse and threw sticks at me.

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

I have no issue with what he's saying, I would just like things to be discussed in a calm manner.

Would you like to point out exactly which of my posts were not discussed in a calm manner?

If it makes it simpler and easier for you, just point out exactly when they stopped being calm.

You might find it revealing.

[PetrolTed]

bogush said:

If it makes it simpler and easier for you, just point out exactly when they stopped being calm.

When you started using bold and large to shout at me perhaps?

[ATG]

(All I was saying is that the loss of access to guns in the UK isn't a good example of a slippery slope ... it was a series of specific and more or less unrelated historical events against a background in which there was a generally dwindling reason to have access to them.)

[marcos maniac]

bogush said:

you will suddenly realise that you and ATG and Pigeon and Streetcop and tvrgit and marcos maniac and all the rest are the various factions of the gun lobby.

[bogush]

PetrolTed said:

bogush said: If it makes it simpler and easier for you, just point out exactly when they stopped being calm. When you started using bold and large to shout at me perhaps?

So that would be after you accused me of:

PetrolTed said:

Poor netiquette to misquote people bogush.

And:

PetrolTed said:

Don't be tiresome.

When anyone who had bothered reading the thread before shooting their mouth off would have realised that I was using ATG's post to demonstrate the point of the thread.

In fact, anyone even bothering to read the post you were refering to would have spotted:

bogush said:

I've just reread your post, ATG, and you demonstrate the point I'm trying to make perfectly: ATG might as well have said:

But I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology for what I feel is your libel.

[PetrolTed]

You really do need to go take a breather

[bogush]

marcos maniac said:

bogush said: you will suddenly realise that you and ATG and Pigeon and Streetcop and tvrgit and marcos maniac and all the rest are the various factions of the gun lobby.

marcos maniac also said:

Oh dear is someone getting the wrong end of the stick again

And:

marcos maniac said:

Or where they aimed at someone else?

If so, apologies.

[PetrolTed]

Time for bed for this thread.