Discussion
jamie w said:
But the MLMers haven't... Wooda80 said:
Incredible how much snow and ice there was on the roads in that video. Either it's much milder now or we have better gritting.
It used to be a bit exciting when the outside lane became narrowed due to the snow, you would be overtaking somebody and the snow line would be creeping into your lane, dipping the off-side wheels into it at speed had a way of focusing your attention somewhat.Elroy Blue said:
As someone who has policed the motorways for the last ten years, some of those working practices made my hair curl.
However, it must have been great to have SEVENTY TWO Officers dedicated solely to dealing with traffic issues on the motorway. An age we'll never see again.
On the other hand.. it is nice to see a lack of nanny state and see people doing their jobs and people being man enough to take responsibility for themselves... Imagine a police officer kicking in someone’s rear window nowadays... they would be sued for causing criminal damage and causing undue stress....However, it must have been great to have SEVENTY TWO Officers dedicated solely to dealing with traffic issues on the motorway. An age we'll never see again.
Edited by Elroy Blue on Wednesday 31st January 13:00
999gsi said:
On the other hand.. it is nice to see a lack of nanny state and see people doing their jobs and people being man enough to take responsibility for themselves... Imagine a police officer kicking in someone’s rear window nowadays... they would be sued for causing criminal damage and causing undue stress....
Agreed. The Don of Croy said:
I like the trafpol commenting on the matrix speed policy, wanting the traffic to go faster...on a snowbound carriageway with poor visibility in crud cars on 165/SR13 tyres already doing 30mph. No thanks!
Less power and narrower tyres, the cars back then were much better in the snow than cars today with lots of low down grunt and wide rubber. The last thing I drove in the snow that was any good was my old Berlingo, 1.9D non turbo and 165 tyres, the V70 I have now is hopeless in comparison.Very interesting.
Best bits were the translation and perfect Dutch spoken by the Accrington lorry driver and the totally unconvincing explanation of how the mark 4 Cortina driver almost managed to correct the back end from hitting the central reservation.
Oh and the b
king of the cretinous drivers by Plod was also priceless.
Best bits were the translation and perfect Dutch spoken by the Accrington lorry driver and the totally unconvincing explanation of how the mark 4 Cortina driver almost managed to correct the back end from hitting the central reservation.
Oh and the b
king of the cretinous drivers by Plod was also priceless.daveinhampshire said:
Amazing to see the raw materials on the road with manufacturing having pretty much vanished since then.
The scariest bit on this programme was the chemical spillage.Police officers and firemen scooping up an unknown chemical without first checking what chemical the hazchem boards identified or how to deal with it !!
Absolute madness !!
Red 4 said:
The scariest bit on this programme was the chemical spillage.
Police officers and firemen scooping up an unknown chemical without first checking what chemical the hazchem boards identified or how to deal with it !!
Absolute madness !!
You think they hadnt checked first? We all carried Hazchem cards and were fully aware of the boards and their meanings. We all received proper classroom training on the matter (not just the traffic cops) Police officers and firemen scooping up an unknown chemical without first checking what chemical the hazchem boards identified or how to deal with it !!
Absolute madness !!
Edited by Bigends on Wednesday 31st January 23:10
Bigends said:
You think they hadnt checked first? We all carried Hazchem cards and were fully aware of the boards and their meanings.
Why do you post such nonsense ?Watch the clip.
I was going to tell you about hazchem boards because your comment about the small cards is also nonsense - but I won't.
Instead, you tell me about every chemical known to man and the unique identifying number displayed on the boards.
Seeing as you know so much.
Every number please, including firefighting code.
There's a good chap.
Edited by Red 4 on Wednesday 31st January 23:27
Red 4 said:
Why do you post such nonsense ?
Watch the clip.
I was going to tell you about hazchem boards because your comment about the small cards is also nonsense - but I won't.
Instead, you tell me about every chemical known to man and the unique identifying number displayed on the hazchem boards.
Seeing as you know so much.
Every number please, including firefighting code.
There's a good chap.
Do you honestly think theyd be stupid enough to go shifting stuff they didnt think it was safe to move?? Really??
All Hazchem jobs were called into Police control - Brigade would have done the same and guidance was given as to whether to interfere or not - or perhaps the driver told him what was on board and it wasnt dangerous? - who knows. Cards were issued as guidance - not a definitive solution - still have mine somewhere - I assume they arent issued anymore then
Watch the clip.
I was going to tell you about hazchem boards because your comment about the small cards is also nonsense - but I won't.
Instead, you tell me about every chemical known to man and the unique identifying number displayed on the hazchem boards.
Seeing as you know so much.
Every number please, including firefighting code.
There's a good chap.
Do you honestly think theyd be stupid enough to go shifting stuff they didnt think it was safe to move?? Really??
All Hazchem jobs were called into Police control - Brigade would have done the same and guidance was given as to whether to interfere or not - or perhaps the driver told him what was on board and it wasnt dangerous? - who knows. Cards were issued as guidance - not a definitive solution - still have mine somewhere - I assume they arent issued anymore then
Edited by Bigends on Wednesday 31st January 23:35
Edited by Bigends on Wednesday 31st January 23:38
Edited by Bigends on Wednesday 31st January 23:40
No wonder the vehicle death and injury rate was ~4 times higher back then!
Way before health and safety, car safety, proper driver training, proper emergency services training, and proper road design.
Interesting to hear the wot-wot voiceover. Almost unrecognizable now (apart from Rees-Mogg).
And interesting to see the heavy snow and ice before global warming took over.
Way before health and safety, car safety, proper driver training, proper emergency services training, and proper road design.
Interesting to hear the wot-wot voiceover. Almost unrecognizable now (apart from Rees-Mogg).
And interesting to see the heavy snow and ice before global warming took over.
Bigends said:
Red 4 said:
The scariest bit on this programme was the chemical spillage.
Police officers and firemen scooping up an unknown chemical without first checking what chemical the hazchem boards identified or how to deal with it !!
Absolute madness !!
You think they hadnt checked first? We all carried Hazchem cards and were fully aware of the boards and their meanings. We all received proper classroom training on the matter (not just the traffic cops) Police officers and firemen scooping up an unknown chemical without first checking what chemical the hazchem boards identified or how to deal with it !!
Absolute madness !!
Edited by Bigends on Wednesday 31st January 23:10
Bigends said:
Do you honestly think theyd be stupid enough to go shifting stuff they didnt think it was safe to move?? Really??
All Hazchem jobs were called into Police control - Brigade would have done the same and guidance was given as to whether to interfere or not - or perhaps the driver told him what was on board and it wasnt dangerous? - who knows. Cards were issued as guidance - not a definitive solution - still have mine somewhere - I assume they arent issued anymore then
Watch the film !!!!All Hazchem jobs were called into Police control - Brigade would have done the same and guidance was given as to whether to interfere or not - or perhaps the driver told him what was on board and it wasnt dangerous? - who knows. Cards were issued as guidance - not a definitive solution - still have mine somewhere - I assume they arent issued anymore then
Fire Service treated with water.
Instructions came back from police control to treat with foam or sand only - and breathing apparatus must be worn !!!
So yeah, really.
Driver had no idea what he was carrying !
Hazchem cards won't tell you what it is.
The book providing the identification numbers and info is in the control room.
There should also be an emergency contact number displayed on the vehicle.
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