"Offical Warning" from the Police
Discussion
Monkeylegend said:
Nibbles_bits said:
I've sent a strongly worded email.
That's the official PH way of dealing with things, should work.Nibbles_bits said:
hidetheelephants said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Nope. Not a Caution.
No roadside, or other, interview.
I'm BiB......in the same force.....and I haven't a clue what it means
No roadside, or other, interview.
I'm BiB......in the same force.....and I haven't a clue what it means
Nothing like the left hand not knowing what righty is up to. 
Is the sender near enough you could visit and ask WTF it means? PH needs to know.
In the rare situation that fails, try the FOTL approach and argue about whether one can drive a car until they get annoyed enough and stick the letter up your arse.
taffer87 said:
this isn’t uncommon - for eg when someone reports third party incidents via dashcam footage where police feel they won’t get a conviction in court due to (lack of) quality of evidence then they offen issue a written warning. it doesn’t mean much at all as if they had enough to prosecute they would issue a NIP and in the next potential incident they have to make a determination based on the facts and evidence of that next potential incident
obviously the purpose is to warn so as to potentially improve the driver’s driving standard - so if they mess up again and for eg have a serious incident in future police can say they even warned the driver. Record is kept for 3 year at least for Met police for such letters
Ah, so it doesn't mean much then.obviously the purpose is to warn so as to potentially improve the driver’s driving standard - so if they mess up again and for eg have a serious incident in future police can say they even warned the driver. Record is kept for 3 year at least for Met police for such letters
Edited by taffer87 on Saturday 11th November 11:10
I've requested it be removed from any "recording systems" because, in this case, it can't be proved that the 3rd car existed and neither can it be proved that the car we collided with didn't just "brake check" us.
- before anyone says it - Mrs Nibbles_bits isn't disputing she was at fault for insurance purposes, just that there were factors beyond her control. For example, the driver she hit said the road ahead of them was clear.......so why did they stop??
BertBert said:
Monkeylegend said:
Nibbles_bits said:
I've sent a strongly worded email.
That's the official PH way of dealing with things, should work."We was sedately proceeding along the carriageway when suddenly the perps vehicle stopped in front of us with no warning. We had no option but to drive into the back, causing severe damage to both vehicles. On further investigation it appears that a third vehicle caused the collision by driving on the wrong side of the road towards the vehicle in front, causing the sudden stop of this vehicle which we did not anticipate in time for us to avoid the collision"
That will get their attention.
Monkeylegend said:
BertBert said:
Monkeylegend said:
Nibbles_bits said:
I've sent a strongly worded email.
That's the official PH way of dealing with things, should work."We was sedately proceeding along the carriageway when suddenly the perps vehicle stopped in front of us with no warning. We had no option but to drive into the back, causing severe damage to both vehicles. On further investigation it appears that a third vehicle caused the collision by driving on the wrong side of the road towards the vehicle in front, causing the sudden stop of this vehicle which we did not anticipate in time for us to avoid the collision"
That will get their attention.
Edited by Nibbles_bits on Saturday 11th November 13:12
Amateurish said:
You have to accept a caution.
Correct, and the police don't always point out that agreement to accept an official Caution is an admission of guilt.https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_infor...
"Accept a Caution now and the matter will be closed" yes it'll be all over, and you'll have admitted guilt and gained a police record.
Family member was wrongly accused, refused a Caution offered as above, in short order CPS offered no evidence / case closed. Poker, not justice.
Sounds like Warning could be something to do with going 70 on wet roads with aquaplaning/skid risk whilst too close to car ahead to stop in time leading to an avoidable crash from that.
Think its just to have on file for future use if she crashes again or hits someone.
Perhaps time to have her on skid pad for a bit so she can handle loosing and regaining control if she's going to do limit in the wet, my worst fear is OH gets hurt/killed.
Think its just to have on file for future use if she crashes again or hits someone.
Perhaps time to have her on skid pad for a bit so she can handle loosing and regaining control if she's going to do limit in the wet, my worst fear is OH gets hurt/killed.
turbobloke said:
Amateurish said:
You have to accept a caution.
Correct, and the police don't always point out that agreement to accept an official Caution is an admission of guilt.https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_infor...
"Accept a Caution now and the matter will be closed" yes it'll be all over, and you'll have admitted guilt and gained a police record.
Family member was wrongly accused, refused a Caution offered as above, in short order CPS offered no evidence / case closed. Poker, not justice.
NFT said:
Sounds like Warning could be something to do with going 70 on wet roads with aquaplaning/skid risk whilst too close to car ahead to stop in time leading to an avoidable crash from that.
Think its just to have on file for future use if she crashes again or hits someone.
Perhaps time to have her on skid pad for a bit so she can handle loosing and regaining control if she's going to do limit in the wet, my worst fear is OH gets hurt/killed.
"Approximately" 70mph. No amount of skid pan training would have changed the outcome. Think its just to have on file for future use if she crashes again or hits someone.
Perhaps time to have her on skid pad for a bit so she can handle loosing and regaining control if she's going to do limit in the wet, my worst fear is OH gets hurt/killed.
Fortunately Mrs didn't make any steering adjustments prior to the collision.
The outcome would likely have been much worse if she had.
It might be "on file"....but for what purpose?
It can't be used in any decision making by the Police on how any future RTC that my landlady is involved in is dealt with.
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