Speed wardens coming to your local town
Discussion
As part of the neighbourhood watch thing, my FIL (lives not that far from where this is happening) was advised to go purchase a radar, and set up a share group where people took it in turns to stand zapping people, record details and take them to Mr PC.
I pointed out "somewhat forcefully" that if I saw anyone using it I'd be likely to stop, remove said device and take legal action against anyone holding it (didn't know if I could or not, but saying I'd t
t them wouldn't wash well with him!)
End of day result is the radar gun is now sat in it's box, so far used only to guage how quickly a rabbit can run when being chased off the flower border. I'm hoping to procure it to measure the speed of my RC aircraft at some point, at which point it will have at least served a useful purpose in life!
I pointed out "somewhat forcefully" that if I saw anyone using it I'd be likely to stop, remove said device and take legal action against anyone holding it (didn't know if I could or not, but saying I'd t
t them wouldn't wash well with him!) End of day result is the radar gun is now sat in it's box, so far used only to guage how quickly a rabbit can run when being chased off the flower border. I'm hoping to procure it to measure the speed of my RC aircraft at some point, at which point it will have at least served a useful purpose in life!
AndyAudi said:
I was amazed to learn these flashing signs don't have a "counter" in them to record how many times they are set off, surely that would have been a more sensible way of finding out if there is a problem or not?
The newer SID's do have data loggers so the vehicle speeds can be monitored.
The older inductive loop SIDs which have been around for ages are pretty inaccurate but the accuracy of the newer ones is pretty good, it's just that the trigger speeds of many are probably set unrealistically low.
One big problem with the specific idea mentioned is that it links SIDs with speed enforcement itself. Currently they are successful because people know that there is no such link.
Gareth
Just wondering whether there are any implications for these "wardens" under the data protection act at all - after all as far as I understand they are not an oficial body.
I live in Winchester and when I saw it on the news about these people starting to do this in Lymington I just asked my father in law whether he fancied a run down there to wind them up. :-D
Phil
I live in Winchester and when I saw it on the news about these people starting to do this in Lymington I just asked my father in law whether he fancied a run down there to wind them up. :-D
Phil
I've seen this occasionally in my Village. If I'm in the company van I just shake my head in a "what a ridiculous t you are" manner. If I'm in or on one of my personal vehicles then I'm a little more, errr, animated.
Most of us know these fools have no power or legal standing, but there will be many who don't know that. It surely can't be long before someone loses it, stops, and gives the daft tt with the radar gun/pen and pad/whatever a damned good hiding. Might even happen in my Village yet 
you are" manner. If I'm in or on one of my personal vehicles then I'm a little more, errr, animated. Most of us know these fools have no power or legal standing, but there will be many who don't know that. It surely can't be long before someone loses it, stops, and gives the daft t
t with the radar gun/pen and pad/whatever a damned good hiding. Might even happen in my Village yet They'd better make sure the signs are calibrated correctly and in good working order, there's one sign I go past that flashes constantly, another that flashes at anything above 28mph. Plus the signs can be triggered by a car 100 yards in front and still be flashing as you go past. I can see it doing far more harm than good as it'll just piss people off.
turbobloke said:
I was amazed to learn these flashing signs don't have a "counter" in them to record how many times they are set off, surely that would have been a more sensible way of finding out if there is a problem or not?
A row occurred in Flints when two of these signs at Rhosesmor were set to trigger at 35 or so in a 40 limit. " For saftey reasons", the council said when challenged.
How could drivers know if others have been set low?
Tafia said:Put an effective device in the hands of muppets and it will get abused. There is credible evidence that these interactive signals work well, but if they fall into the same disrepute as some speed limits and ineffective GATSOs that benefit may be reduced. Sad.
I was amazed to learn these flashing signs don't have a "counter" in them to record how many times they are set off, surely that would have been a more sensible way of finding out if there is a problem or not?
A row occurred in Flints when two of these signs at Rhosesmor were set to trigger at 35 or so in a 40 limit. " For saftey reasons", the council said when challenged.
How could drivers know if others have been set low?
autismuk said:Yes, aren't we half way there already with the Pratnerships? They're at arm's length from the police and what a farce that empire building is turning out to be, rife with spin and manipulation of statistics. Minutes of their meetings where available, and news that at least one SCAMP shredded documents immediately before the Freedom of Information Act came into force, don't bode well for any further moves in the privatisation direction.
What really concerns me is that I can foresee privatised Speed Enforcement ; which will be run as honestly as privatised Wheel Clamping and privatised Traffic Wardens.
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