Dyslxic number plates
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The original post was mine but generated a bit of a backlash so i deleted it i'm really a law abiding sensitive soul you see just object to the crass and obvious indirect taxation that is the venerable gatso they have bugger all tro do with saftey and all to do with raising revenues and i therfore support wholeheatedly any and all measures designed to combat their effectiveness hence the dyslexic plate on my ducati I have no intention of attempting to use my vehicle in any other criminal way and to say that the law is the law and i cant be selective is to be blind to the motivation behind those laws .Whats the quote abot rules ands laws being for theguidance of the wise and the doctrine of fools . Finally we should all exercise good judgment in our use of speed ie built up areas, schools, potentialy hazardous situations but when i see a gatso behind a road sign on a clear stretch of open road i say f*** em photo my plate see hoe far it gets you and up the revolution!!
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to say that the law is the law and i cant be selective is to be blind to the motivation behind those laws .
you could do with a little more punctuation in your messages
What you say is too true. There is a lesson to be learnt from Hitler and Nazi Germany. I spoke to my dad ("what did you do in the war?!?") at length about this. The nazis were elected after the 1929 recession on the promise of jobs for all - a promise they largely delivered. They then started passing laws that were undemocratic and later, positively evil. Too few people really started questioning things until it was too late - the secret police (gestapo) were there. There were too few questions asked because these people were legally elected representatives - MPs!!!
After the war, Germany got a constitutional court and a written constition. Now, if an undemocratic law is passed, it can be (and is challenged) at the constitutional court (same us US supreme court), and they can and do) revoke a law.
It worries me intensely that in this country laws can be passed where the police can, merely on suspicion, confiscate all your funds. At the moment, they are trying to do away with the time-honoured "habeas corpus".
There are no checks and balances in this country. No constitution. I wasn't enamoured of the House of Lords, but at least now and again they stood up for something. Now its full of Tony's cronies. Look at what orgnisation like Liberty have to say.
I hate to say this, but by now France and Germany are probably more democratic than England.
Rgs, WalterU
sorry its off topic, but I am seriously worried.
Its just Godwin's Law being invoked, that's all.
Godwin's Law states
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Godwin's Law states
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A friend of mine who is very much into his bikes told me about a switch operated number plate for motorbikes that when a button on the handlebar is pressed it flips up and shows only the legend 'Sorry'.
Any of you heard of these? Hertsbiker?
Do they do them for cars? As it would seem that if people do this then the effectiveness of the Gatso would be seriously compromised at £30K odd for the camera and £2K+ for a roll of film.
Matt.
Edited by plotloss on Thursday 22 November 14:46
Any of you heard of these? Hertsbiker?
Do they do them for cars? As it would seem that if people do this then the effectiveness of the Gatso would be seriously compromised at £30K odd for the camera and £2K+ for a roll of film.
Matt.
Edited by plotloss on Thursday 22 November 14:46
My opinion is varied on the matter.
Apparently when they are on the car in normal legal mode you cant tell there is anything 'special' about them. They just have some mechanism that flips them up.
I dont think I would put them on the Chimp as it does seem to attract the attention of our boys in blue enough but would be interested to know how something like this could possibly be combatted given that you cant tell when they arent flipped.
Of course it would be obvious if you happened to have a police car behind you and you did it but a Gatso would surely not know any different and its not like they could check all cars that fitted the description of one that went through a camera with it flipped.
Matt.
Apparently when they are on the car in normal legal mode you cant tell there is anything 'special' about them. They just have some mechanism that flips them up.
I dont think I would put them on the Chimp as it does seem to attract the attention of our boys in blue enough but would be interested to know how something like this could possibly be combatted given that you cant tell when they arent flipped.
Of course it would be obvious if you happened to have a police car behind you and you did it but a Gatso would surely not know any different and its not like they could check all cars that fitted the description of one that went through a camera with it flipped.
Matt.
Jaydee,
either you did not read carefully, or I did not express myself clearly enough. I was not comparing english laws to nazi laws. At least here ýou don't get shot
if you're caught by a Gatso . I merely tried to make a point that it is very important to question the motivation behind lawmaking, and not always accept laws without question.
I chucked law studies in Germany in the late 70's because you were still taught to apply law, and not to question it.
Rgds, WalterU
either you did not read carefully, or I did not express myself clearly enough. I was not comparing english laws to nazi laws. At least here ýou don't get shot
if you're caught by a Gatso . I merely tried to make a point that it is very important to question the motivation behind lawmaking, and not always accept laws without question. I chucked law studies in Germany in the late 70's because you were still taught to apply law, and not to question it.
Rgds, WalterU
the number plate flipper Ive seen folds the plate in half at the touch of a button - but you very much can tell when it isnt a standard plate cos there's a horizontal line across it! Im sure the police are well aware of it as well....cool 'James Bond' gadget though 
oh, and I tohught Walters comparison was pretty damn good.....
oh, and I tohught Walters comparison was pretty damn good.....
Thanks to walter u for the informed comments and i actually agree laws are not brought about by some devine guidance they are made by people like u and i and as such should always be put under scrutiny. and herts biker nope weve probablr not met as i'm quite northern
on a serious note is there anone out there qualified to give an accurate assesment of the probable penalty faced by me and my dyslexic plate no hysteria please as i stated i was stopped near home with the plate on (two of the letters were transposed) my tax disc was checked and i was sent on my way with no action taken , the police in question had run a p&c check on the plate and the reg no on the disc and found no outstanding charges stern talking to but nothing else (so much for prison and a criminal conviction eh ) so what were the other possible outcomes???
on a serious note is there anone out there qualified to give an accurate assesment of the probable penalty faced by me and my dyslexic plate no hysteria please as i stated i was stopped near home with the plate on (two of the letters were transposed) my tax disc was checked and i was sent on my way with no action taken , the police in question had run a p&c check on the plate and the reg no on the disc and found no outstanding charges stern talking to but nothing else (so much for prison and a criminal conviction eh ) so what were the other possible outcomes???
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