Letter from Police

[R1 Loon]

Shuvi Tupya said:

Well, now you know not all members of public appreciate government officials poking their nose into our business when not asked too. I am quite sure i am in the minority, but i have never been asked if i want this service, and i don't

Are you quite so opposed to using the police if you have property stolen though? If you are determined to opt out of one, then you should opt out of the other.

[Shuvi Tupya]

R1 Loon said:

Shuvi Tupya said:

Well, now you know not all members of public appreciate government officials poking their nose into our business when not asked too. I am quite sure i am in the minority, but i have never been asked if i want this service, and i don't

Are you quite so opposed to using the police if you have property stolen though? If you are determined to opt out of one, then you should opt out of the other.

The only reason i report thefts to the police is for insurance purposes. If that were not a requirement, i would not go to the trouble!

[R1 Loon]

Shuvi Tupya said:

The only reason i report thefts to the police is for insurance purposes. If that were not a requirement, i would not go to the trouble!

Result. Where do you live, I'll have your car and clean out your house.

[Nigel Worc's]

ajstephe said:

Shuvi Tupya said:

If my memory serves me , another PH'er once got his valuables taken from his car , but by the police. They did it to prevent the items being stolen by someone else, or some such line.

I also seem to remember he then had to go to the police station to prove he owned the goods, and collect them.

For me that is more worrying as i often am not good at keeping receipts for things, I would have more luck trying to get my possessions back from a theif, than the cops

I have done this before. A shopper had left their car window open with a satnav and PSP on the passenger's seat. Waited around for 5 minutes to see if they would return which they didn't. Left a note in the car that I had taken the items out of the car and brought it to the station around the corner for safe keeping and they could get the items back. I can't see the problem in doing it especially as this area was well known for theft from vehicles.

If you return the property without too much hassle, just the wagging finger stuff, I'd thankyou, maybe even buy you a coffee and a doughnut !

Do you demand a recipt to prove the property belongs to the person you stole it from ... to protect it ?

Thats the only issue I'd have

[Nigel Worc's]

ajstephe said:

Nigel Worc's said:

ajstephe said:

Shuvi Tupya said:

If my memory serves me , another PH'er once got his valuables taken from his car , but by the police. They did it to prevent the items being stolen by someone else, or some such line.

I also seem to remember he then had to go to the police station to prove he owned the goods, and collect them.

For me that is more worrying as i often am not good at keeping receipts for things, I would have more luck trying to get my possessions back from a theif, than the cops

I have done this before. A shopper had left their car window open with a satnav and PSP on the passenger's seat. Waited around for 5 minutes to see if they would return which they didn't. Left a note in the car that I had taken the items out of the car and brought it to the station around the corner for safe keeping and they could get the items back. I can't see the problem in doing it especially as this area was well known for theft from vehicles.

If you return the property without too much hassle, just the wagging finger stuff, I'd thankyou, maybe even buy you a coffee and a doughnut !

Do you demand a recipt to prove the property belongs to the person you stole it from ... to protect it ?

Thats the only issue I'd have

No just proof of who you are so I know who I'm handing the property to and also some documentation for the car to prove it was either your car or a car you had permission to use or if you were to turn up at the station in the car from which the items were taken with keys for said car. The reason being anyone can walk past the car, see the note and try and claim that the items were theirs. I don't want it any more difficult than necessary to get your property back to you however you we do need to conduct basic checks

Cheers, somehow I didn't think it'd be that strict, but someone posted it was ......and if I was stupid enough , or just made a mistake, and you removed my property for safe keeping, I doubt I'd be able to produce recipts.

[Nigel Worc's]

ajstephe said:

Nigel Worc's said:

ajstephe said:

Nigel Worc's said:

ajstephe said:

Shuvi Tupya said:

If my memory serves me , another PH'er once got his valuables taken from his car , but by the police. They did it to prevent the items being stolen by someone else, or some such line.

I also seem to remember he then had to go to the police station to prove he owned the goods, and collect them.

For me that is more worrying as i often am not good at keeping receipts for things, I would have more luck trying to get my possessions back from a theif, than the cops

I have done this before. A shopper had left their car window open with a satnav and PSP on the passenger's seat. Waited around for 5 minutes to see if they would return which they didn't. Left a note in the car that I had taken the items out of the car and brought it to the station around the corner for safe keeping and they could get the items back. I can't see the problem in doing it especially as this area was well known for theft from vehicles.

If you return the property without too much hassle, just the wagging finger stuff, I'd thankyou, maybe even buy you a coffee and a doughnut !

Do you demand a recipt to prove the property belongs to the person you stole it from ... to protect it ?

Thats the only issue I'd have

No just proof of who you are so I know who I'm handing the property to and also some documentation for the car to prove it was either your car or a car you had permission to use or if you were to turn up at the station in the car from which the items were taken with keys for said car. The reason being anyone can walk past the car, see the note and try and claim that the items were theirs. I don't want it any more difficult than necessary to get your property back to you however you we do need to conduct basic checks

Cheers, somehow I didn't think it'd be that strict, but someone posted it was ......and if I was stupid enough , or just made a mistake, and you removed my property for safe keeping, I doubt I'd be able to produce recipts.

It's not about finger wagging either. More prevention of crime. If I can prevent someone from becoming a victim I think that causing a minor inconvenience is better than the hassle of someone having to give a statement, submit their car fro fingerprints, wasting time calling up insurers, going to court etc. Although some people are too short sighted to realise this.

BTW I take my doughnut with sprinkles on it

Finger wagging would be ok, to be in that position I'd have been careless, and you've "protected" me, which is part of what you're there for lol

[Shuvi Tupya]

R1 Loon said:

Shuvi Tupya said:

The only reason i report thefts to the police is for insurance purposes. If that were not a requirement, i would not go to the trouble!

Result. Where do you live, I'll have your car and clean out your house.

Strange logic, do burglars only rob people if they think the police won't be informed?

Let's face it, our society is such that you have to involve the police in certain matters. As members of the public we do not have the authority to hunt down those who do us wrong for example.

So yes, there are scenario's in which i would turn to the police for help, but i don't have the option of not doing my bit in funding them so surely it is fair that i ask for some help if i needed it.

I don't need them to wipe my ass though.

[Shuvi Tupya]

Sorry, that's one of the words that rubbed off on me when i was 'over there'. 'Arse' just sounds strange to me now

[nigel_bytes]

THIEVES have stolen from more than 40 cars in Kirklees in six weeks – thanks to the help of the victims.

All the victims’ vehicles were left unlocked or had windows open.

Thieves have been on the prowl for valuable items left on display since October.

Police are now stepping up their warning ahead of Christmas when people tend to leave bags and gifts on display in their cars.



Read More http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/local-west-yorkshir...

[Shuvi Tupya]

nigel_bytes said:

THIEVES have stolen from more than 40 cars in Kirklees in six weeks – thanks to the help of the victims.

Is that really fair, to blame the victims?

[don'tbesilly]

Shuvi Tupya said:

nigel_bytes said:

THIEVES have stolen from more than 40 cars in Kirklees in six weeks – thanks to the help of the victims.

Is that really fair, to blame the victims?

Perhaps not, but the insurer would blame the victim and not pay out on any claim as the victim had not protected the items that were stolen.

[thinfourth2]

eldar said:

mrmr96 said:

Why does this letter bother you?

Good question. Leaving a satnav mount in place is an invite for a scrote to have a rummage in your car. I'd assume the police have a good idea about the crime levels in a particular area.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If they have enough time to write a letter then they have enough time to sit and wait for a scrote to break into the car.

[mrmr96]

thinfourth2 said:

eldar said:

mrmr96 said:

Why does this letter bother you?

Good question. Leaving a satnav mount in place is an invite for a scrote to have a rummage in your car. I'd assume the police have a good idea about the crime levels in a particular area.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If they have enough time to write a letter then they have enough time to sit and wait for a scrote to break into the car.

Are you taking the piss?

[Mr_annie_vxr]

thinfourth2 said:

eldar said:

mrmr96 said:

Why does this letter bother you?

Good question. Leaving a satnav mount in place is an invite for a scrote to have a rummage in your car. I'd assume the police have a good idea about the crime levels in a particular area.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If they have enough time to write a letter then they have enough time to sit and wait for a scrote to break into the car.

Exactly how long do you think it takes to generate pre-printed stuff like this?

You also need to get authorities to carry out observations from an inspector. You have to then document this in writing and create an audit trail. If you are then there for a bit longer you must get the authority from a superintendent. You would also be required to inform the car owner you are doing this and allowing their propert robbed damaged in order for you to catch an offender. This requires more forms and paperwork signing as well as locating that person who owns the car.

Or you could take 30 seconds to note the reg and get an automatically generated letter sent out just giving then some crime prevention advice. Which is all this letter is.

[pacman1]

14-7 said:

The police walked in through my front door the other day and took all my belongings because I'd left the front door open.

They then had the cheek to ask me to provide proof of ownership to get everything back!

..must have had a warrant. You mean they gave you back your 'gear'?! All sounds a bit dodgy to me..

Edited by pacman1 on Sunday 21st November 10:26

[Oldred_V8S]

And the problem with this is?????

OK most of us on here are fairly savvy when it comes to what sort of activities the scrotey community out there are up to and if we do accidentally leave something of interest on show in our cars it is a rarity and we count ourselves fortunate when we return to the car and find it as we left it.

Having owned an iPhone for the last 3 years I can say hand on heart that I have only once left it on show in the car on one occasion and the resultant cold sweat when I returned to the car and the feeling of relief that all was well, is still with me now; but there are many out there that do not have our foresight and still live in a bygone age when you could go out and leave your door unlocked etc etc etc, so anything the Police can do to starve the thieving scrotes of the supply of goodies and to protect the vulnerable in our communities is fine by me.

[thinfourth2]

Mr_annie_vxr said:

Exactly how long do you think it takes to generate pre-printed stuff like this?

You also need to get authorities to carry out observations from an inspector. You have to then document this in writing and create an audit trail. If you are then there for a bit longer you must get the authority from a superintendent. You would also be required to inform the car owner you are doing this and allowing their propert robbed damaged in order for you to catch an offender. This requires more forms and paperwork signing as well as locating that person who owns the car.

Or you could take 30 seconds to note the reg and get an automatically generated letter sent out just giving then some crime prevention advice. Which is all this letter is.

And we wander why there are no cops on the street

They are all filling in forms

[eldar]

thinfourth2 said:

eldar said:

mrmr96 said:

Why does this letter bother you?

Good question. Leaving a satnav mount in place is an invite for a scrote to have a rummage in your car. I'd assume the police have a good idea about the crime levels in a particular area.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If they have enough time to write a letter then they have enough time to sit and wait for a scrote to break into the car.

They really can't win, can they. Be a bit proactive and try and stop opportunist crime, end more is expected. I'd thought crime prevention was part of the Police's remit, not just cleaning up the aftermath.

[thinfourth2]

eldar said:

thinfourth2 said:

eldar said:

mrmr96 said:

Why does this letter bother you?

Good question. Leaving a satnav mount in place is an invite for a scrote to have a rummage in your car. I'd assume the police have a good idea about the crime levels in a particular area.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If they have enough time to write a letter then they have enough time to sit and wait for a scrote to break into the car.

They really can't win, can they. Be a bit proactive and try and stop opportunist crime, end more is expected. I'd thought crime prevention was part of the Police's remit, not just cleaning up the aftermath.

When they are screaming about a lack of resources sending out letters doen't scream we have no resources.

[Mr_annie_vxr]

thinfourth2 said:

eldar said:

thinfourth2 said:

eldar said:

mrmr96 said:

Why does this letter bother you?

Good question. Leaving a satnav mount in place is an invite for a scrote to have a rummage in your car. I'd assume the police have a good idea about the crime levels in a particular area.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If they have enough time to write a letter then they have enough time to sit and wait for a scrote to break into the car.

They really can't win, can they. Be a bit proactive and try and stop opportunist crime, end more is expected. I'd thought crime prevention was part of the Police's remit, not just cleaning up the aftermath.

When they are screaming about a lack of resources sending out letters doen't scream we have no resources.

No it seems they have officer on patrol.

Those officers noted the reg.

The officers took a few seconds to give some crime prevention advice. Thus hoping to avoid the time taken to deal with a tfmv. As well as the inconvenience to the car owner.

Cheap prevention is surely better than expensive investigation and an insurance claim and time wasted?