Old people with speed guns
Discussion
Graveworm said:
MrTrilby said:
So if there were a scheme available that made people feel safer to use the road (a benefit), and yet cost almost nothing to operate and did not inconvenience law abiding motorists, you’d be happy?
You wrote about reducing the speed limit which seldom costs next to nothing. MrTrilby said:
You’re avoid the question yet again. It makes no reference to changing speed limits. So, would you be happy with a scheme that made people feel safer using the road, yet had very little cost and doesn’t inconvenience legal road users? It’s a simple question with a simple yes or no answer.
Yes - although I'd rather no one was inconvenienced. I did however answer the question. Edited by Graveworm on Monday 12th August 18:16
BertBert said:
How have we got from a few harmless people with reasons (righteous or otherwise) to want the speed limit reasonably observed in a village to a nationwide problem of lost productivity due to extended journey times?
Bert
I blame easily accessible car finace for putting so many cars on the road and extending journey times. If you can't afford a car then buy a bike.Bert
[stands back]..
Fatball said:
Johnnytheboy said:
It's a matter of public record that Speedwatch volunteers come in threes:
1. A gaunt skinny man that looks like a corpse
2. A red faced, jolly looking fat man
3. A slightly confused looking woman who is never holding the actual speed gun.
1 is there to film while 2 finger blasts 3. 1. A gaunt skinny man that looks like a corpse
2. A red faced, jolly looking fat man
3. A slightly confused looking woman who is never holding the actual speed gun.
Bobtherallyfan said:
Persistent offenders are added to a tasking list and circulated for targeted police
intervention in our area. So by all means have a ‘full and frank discussion’ but I wouldn’t rate your chances of avoiding a real speeding ticket in the near future.
I can just imagine Plod following me around in case I broke the speed limit intervention in our area. So by all means have a ‘full and frank discussion’ but I wouldn’t rate your chances of avoiding a real speeding ticket in the near future.
nonsequitur said:
2gins said:
I'd have no problem with enforcement provided the limits are set properly in the first place.
Most, if not all Speedwatch groups man roads in built up areas or villages so the limits would be, quite rightly, set at 20/30/40 mph, as usual in those environments.BobSaunders said:
BertBert said:
How have we got from a few harmless people with reasons (righteous or otherwise) to want the speed limit reasonably observed in a village to a nationwide problem of lost productivity due to extended journey times?
Bert
I blame easily accessible car finace for putting so many cars on the road and extending journey times. If you can't afford a car then buy a bike.Bert
[stands back]..
If it keeps the slightly insane out of their cars I am all for them standing outside holding a speed gun. I'll use the letter to help start the BBQ on the weekends and make better progress with these cretins out of the way, safely huddled together like confused penguins, enjoying their 'role' in society.
Dr Jekyll said:
Without a speed gun or stopwatch doubt I could tell whether a car driving past is doing 29 or 34. So I can't really believe anyone is terrified to go out of their house and walk down the pavement if some people are doing 34 but feels safe if they're doing 29.
You won't be welcome on this thread with common sense statements like that... Bobtherallyfan said:
Properly run Speedwatch schemes insist on three volunteers at all times and you are not allowed to make any movement that might be considered as confrontational. Pointing is a definite no no. Any operations that do not adhere to these standards should be reported to the Police as they only serve to damage the reputation of Speedwatch
The reputation of speedwatch? Is that the one that slightly confused folk with sod all better to do try and make others lives more difficult? Their likely the ones causing the most grief on the roads anyway! yonex said:
The reputation of speedwatch? Is that the one that slightly confused folk with sod all better to do try and make others lives more difficult? Their likely the ones causing the most grief on the roads anyway!
People who vilify or ridicule volunteers altruistic educational efforts are generally those in society to fail to admit that they're at fault themselves. A simple question to you....which of us is more likely to prevent possible accidents and possibly life changing injuries. I've certainly got better things to do with my life but 25 years ago I had to identify the body of my wife of just three years, killed in a road accident. I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone, seeing the lifeless mangled body of the person I loved lying on a cold slab. It that's making your life difficult, then I really don't give a toss!They really don’t bother me that much, i don’t speed through villages, and our village group have nothing better to do, so keeps them out of trouble, and gives them something to chat about at the Doctors.
What did nark me off, was we have just had some new village gate type things erected on the verge at each entrance to the village, with the sign saying ‘Community Speedwatch Village’
Wtvf ? Why not just put a 30 sign on ffs !
What did nark me off, was we have just had some new village gate type things erected on the verge at each entrance to the village, with the sign saying ‘Community Speedwatch Village’
Wtvf ? Why not just put a 30 sign on ffs !
Bobtherallyfan said:
People who vilify or ridicule volunteers altruistic educational efforts are generally those in society to fail to admit that they're at fault themselves. A simple question to you....which of us is more likely to prevent possible accidents and possibly life changing injuries. I've certainly got better things to do with my life but 25 years ago I had to identify the body of my wife of just three years, killed in a road accident. I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone, seeing the lifeless mangled body of the person I loved lying on a cold slab. It that's making your life difficult, then I really don't give a toss!
That’s awful and my sincerest condolences. However. I’ve never sped to a massive extent on urban areas and find the speedwatch ‘message’ a little bit lost. We are taking about a bunch of largely elderly individuals feeding back to the Police. Zero authority, makes no difference. Education is the way forward, but our backward Government wouldn’t dare to do something to actually benefit safety. They just want to make revenue. Hence speedwatch, which is a total waste of everyone’s time.
anonymous said:
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To be fair, in my village the members of the CSW were a mixed bunch. In my “team” of 3 we had one oap (late 60’s) a yummy(ish) mummy and me, a mid 40’s powerfully built company director who drove a urquattro and an integrale.Sorry to go against the stereotype!
Incidentally, my highest speed was 56mph past our primary school. It strikes me thar a lot of the detractors don’t really understand the process and what’s involved in the process of changing a speed limit.
Dr Jekyll said:
Without a speed gun or stopwatch doubt I could tell whether a car driving past is doing 29 or 34. So I can't really believe anyone is terrified to go out of their house and walk down the pavement if some people are doing 34 but feels safe if they're doing 29.
Highest speed recorded on our road is over 70mph. During the daytime. Speed limit is 40mph. No pavement. Houses along the road - rural village. Primary school at the end of the road. Pretty sure no one needed a speed gun to decide they didn’t fancy that coming towards them whilst walking down the road. Mock Speedwatch all you like, but it’s low cost, isn’t a revenue raising exercise (unless people are replying to the warning letters they get sent by CSW and enclosing cash for some reason), and it helps make people think about their driving.
MrTrilby said:
Highest speed recorded on our road is over 70mph. During the daytime. Speed limit is 40mph. No pavement. Houses along the road - rural village. Primary school at the end of the road. Pretty sure no one needed a speed gun to decide they didn’t fancy that coming towards them whilst walking down the road.
Mock Speedwatch all you like, but it’s low cost, isn’t a revenue raising exercise (unless people are replying to the warning letters they get sent by CSW and enclosing cash for some reason), and it helps make people think about their driving.
It’s pointless. Put a camera van out there if you want results, or campaign for a camera. Mock Speedwatch all you like, but it’s low cost, isn’t a revenue raising exercise (unless people are replying to the warning letters they get sent by CSW and enclosing cash for some reason), and it helps make people think about their driving.
Or just continue sitting outside tutting. You’re all hypocrites anyway
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