Police enquiry at home
Discussion
vonhosen said:
We’ll done for posting a completely irrelevant video. Why didn’t you post a video of a small village in the middle of the countryside? Or even residential streets in any town? Oh, because they would be completely dead, that’s why.CoolHands said:
vonhosen said:
We’ll done for posting a completely irrelevant video. Why didn’t you post a video of a small village in the middle of the countryside? Or even residential streets in any town? Oh, because they would be completely dead, that’s why.It is not the same everywhere, some places midnight is not really late & there is still a lot going on with a lot of people up & about.
As such you don't treat all places the same & apply the same timings with regard to what might be considered reasonable or not.
Different people, different places, different experiences, different norms.
MYOB said:
I don’t even like texting people after 9pm, let alone knock on doors unless it was pre-arranged or an emergency.
Indeed. I'm amazed that anyone thinks it's completely fine/normal for anything out side of an emergency matter that requires an instant response.If my house was on fire or my parents had been in a major car accident then fine. For a random enquiry that apparently requires no action, or even a follow up and isn't important enough to leave details for its not really on.
Midnight is late for the vast majority of people. There are clearly exceptions to this, some people are night-owls or work nights etc. Some industries or even odd city areas may even feel busy at those times.
But knocking on a house with all lights in any normal residential area will get either no response, someone freaked out or scared or someone slightly miffed and angry (in my opinion). For anything trivial it probably shouldn't happen.
Most trades, officials or business people would never consider making an unannounced call on a domestic property after 8pm or before 8am in Summer and 6pm and 9am in winter. eg only in the hours of daylight.
Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
vonhosen said:
CoolHands said:
vonhosen said:
We’ll done for posting a completely irrelevant video. Why didn’t you post a video of a small village in the middle of the countryside? Or even residential streets in any town? Oh, because they would be completely dead, that’s why.It is not the same everywhere, some places midnight is not really late & there is still a lot going on with a lot of people up & about.
As such you don't treat all places the same & apply the same timings with regard to what might be considered reasonable or not.
Different people, different places, different experiences, different norms.
drdel said:
Most trades, officials or business people would never consider making an unannounced call on a domestic property after 8pm or before 8am in Summer and 6pm and 9am in winter. eg only in the hours of daylight.
Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
People shouldn't open the door to people they are unhappy to do so at any time of day.Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
You can't always get an appointment without a first contact at the door.
Bigends said:
vonhosen said:
CoolHands said:
vonhosen said:
We’ll done for posting a completely irrelevant video. Why didn’t you post a video of a small village in the middle of the countryside? Or even residential streets in any town? Oh, because they would be completely dead, that’s why.It is not the same everywhere, some places midnight is not really late & there is still a lot going on with a lot of people up & about.
As such you don't treat all places the same & apply the same timings with regard to what might be considered reasonable or not.
Different people, different places, different experiences, different norms.
Again, the point is different people, places, experiences, norms.
My road you'll find a lot of people still awake at midnight. They aren't all drinking Horlicks at 8 & in bed asleep by 9.
Where I worked if you said to a supervisor, "well it's dark now so I'm not going to be knocking on doors for anything other than urgent" you'd get short shrift.
That wouldn't have been reasonable or normal in that area.
Greendubber said:
Yep.
We're actively encouraged to do door to door at night if there's been something going on near by (burglary, domestic etc) 'house in darkness so didn't knock' gets you a ticking off.
Until we know what the crack was we can only guess.
Agreed, for a recent crime / serious incident in progress. No answer - leave a note asking occupier to make contact quoting crime or log number - different to the OP's situation.We're actively encouraged to do door to door at night if there's been something going on near by (burglary, domestic etc) 'house in darkness so didn't knock' gets you a ticking off.
Until we know what the crack was we can only guess.
I'm up till the early hours most nights and certainly wouldnt welcome a midnight call for any reason other than those above
I’d be furious if a Police officer knocked on my door at midnight for something that could then wait a week, that is not acceptable.
And trying to compare that with a water company doing repairs at the same time is really clutching at straws.
I’m usually a fan of Von Hosen’s frank and forthright replies, but not on this thread.
And trying to compare that with a water company doing repairs at the same time is really clutching at straws.
I’m usually a fan of Von Hosen’s frank and forthright replies, but not on this thread.
drdel said:
Most trades, officials or business people would never consider making an unannounced call on a domestic property after 8pm or before 8am in Summer and 6pm and 9am in winter. eg only in the hours of daylight.
Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
But what other trades, officials or business people conduct their day to day business 24/7 ?Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
Nibbles_bits said:
drdel said:
Most trades, officials or business people would never consider making an unannounced call on a domestic property after 8pm or before 8am in Summer and 6pm and 9am in winter. eg only in the hours of daylight.
Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
But what other trades, officials or business people conduct their day to day business 24/7 ?Anything outside of these time should be by appointment. Isn't it Police advice that young/old people and solo women should not answer the door to strangers?.
This is obviously where I went wrong. On a 6pm - 2am I never though to bang on a few doors between midnight and two while it was quiet to arrange a few statements for the next week
Edited by Bigends on Monday 27th June 20:10
Edited by Bigends on Monday 27th June 20:16
6pm - 2am!!!
Bloody hell!!
When were you a Police Officer? 1950?
You obviously never had to deal with a nasty comment of FB, which is of course a "force priority" and scrutinized by the 9 o/c Jury.
SLT -
Monday morning "Please progress your reports"
Tuesday morning "Please don't call at 'unreasonable' times"
Wednesday morning "We know you were on a night shift, but please progress your reports".
Bloody hell!!
When were you a Police Officer? 1950?
You obviously never had to deal with a nasty comment of FB, which is of course a "force priority" and scrutinized by the 9 o/c Jury.
SLT -
Monday morning "Please progress your reports"
Tuesday morning "Please don't call at 'unreasonable' times"
Wednesday morning "We know you were on a night shift, but please progress your reports".
Bigends said:
On a 6pm - 2am I never though to bang on a few doors between midnight and two while it was quiet to arrange a few statements for the next week
How about, "Hammer on the front door at 6.00 a.m. to catch them before they go to work/take the kids to school" etc etc?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKcFNHaFdg
Insert Coin said:
I’d be furious if a Police officer knocked on my door at midnight for something that could then wait a week, that is not acceptable.
And trying to compare that with a water company doing repairs at the same time is really clutching at straws.
I’m usually a fan of Von Hosen’s frank and forthright replies, but not on this thread.
Yet if you were burgled and the police attended to investigate at midnight you would probably be unhappy if they took a week to speak to your neighbours who may have witnessed something rather than give them a knock at midnight. And trying to compare that with a water company doing repairs at the same time is really clutching at straws.
I’m usually a fan of Von Hosen’s frank and forthright replies, but not on this thread.
Sure it could wait a week, a month even but would you be happy with that level of service?
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
Panamax said:
Bigends said:
On a 6pm - 2am I never though to bang on a few doors between midnight and two while it was quiet to arrange a few statements for the next week
How about, "Hammer on the front door at 6.00 a.m. to catch them before they go to work/take the kids to school" etc etc?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKcFNHaFdg
ED209 said:
Insert Coin said:
I’d be furious if a Police officer knocked on my door at midnight for something that could then wait a week, that is not acceptable.
And trying to compare that with a water company doing repairs at the same time is really clutching at straws.
I’m usually a fan of Von Hosen’s frank and forthright replies, but not on this thread.
Yet if you were burgled and the police attended to investigate at midnight you would probably be unhappy if they took a week to speak to your neighbours who may have witnessed something rather than give them a knock at midnight. And trying to compare that with a water company doing repairs at the same time is really clutching at straws.
I’m usually a fan of Von Hosen’s frank and forthright replies, but not on this thread.
Sure it could wait a week, a month even but would you be happy with that level of service?
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
It’s obviously not urgent as it’s waiting a week…
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