Drive getting redone bloke not turned up

Drive getting redone bloke not turned up

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Beyond Rational

3,527 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Has he gone through the proper processes regarding the dropped kerb?

I know, daft question!

Can't believe he expected you to pay the paving supplier with no prior notice, what does he do when his customers aren't at home / contactable?

m3jappa

6,459 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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wjwren said:
job was £2900
The grab was 1 lorry, which was nearly full. The stone was on a 2nd lorry.

Edited by wjwren on Wednesday 3rd May 17:17
I know it all too well hence the (nearly prefect) guess. Its impossible to do a drive of that size to a good standard for 3k. he only way to do it is if your a total idiot, which the bloke has proved himself to be.


StuTheGrouch

5,754 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Beyond Rational said:
Can't believe he expected you to pay the paving supplier with no prior notice, what does he do when his customers aren't at home / contactable?
That was my thought too.

OP- tell him it's over and done with. Get someone else to take the job on, this guy is not worth any more of your time.

Vaud

50,799 posts

157 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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wjwren said:
as he hasnt got any line of credit at the builders merchants as he can't be trusted to pay
Fixed...

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

137 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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m3jappa what depth should the hardcore base be? Ive just dug it out and there is about 3 inch's. Can you advise please. Thank you.

also where should the bricks come to the DPC?


alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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wjwren said:
m3jappa what depth should the hardcore base be? Ive just dug it out and there is about 3 inch's. Can you advise please. Thank you.

also where should the bricks come to the DPC?
eta sub-base min 150mm if used for cars IMO



http://www.pavingexpert.com/blocks04.htm



Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 3rd May 21:01

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

137 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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what mm should that sub base be?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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wjwren said:
what mm should that sub base be?
edited... min 150mm IMO

any membrane?

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

137 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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no membrane. So he has helpfully put 76mm of sub base down.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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wjwren said:
no membrane. So he has helpfully put 76mm of sub base down.
I wouldn't do less than 150mm myself. What did he specify in his quote?

Greendubber

13,261 posts

205 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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This jobs a total car crash, just tell him to forget it.

m3jappa

6,459 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Yes it should be 150mm min. compacted in at least two layers or more if thicker. should be type 1 granite, limestone or properly clean type 1 crushed concrete.

Ideally 2 courses below but in reality sometimes that doesn't work. Although if he's raised it from 2 below to say 1 below thats a naughty trick. We only ever go above 2 below if the levels dictate theres nothing else to do iykwim.

m3jappa

6,459 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Also don't get caught up on membranes.

People think its to stop weeds, it isn't, its meant to separate the soil from the base.

My issue with membrane is that unless the ground is perfectly flat, i.e no undulations. then when the membrane gets laid and the base goes on theres lots of void space in the creases. it then can sink/settle.

I used to use membrane and had a few which dipped. stopped it and just install the base properly and all good again.

wjwren

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137 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Having retired from groundworks / civils contracting a few years ago I will leave you in m3jappa's obviously more than capable hands......good luck OP.

mcg_

1,445 posts

94 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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3 inchs of sub base oh dear. Footways are constructed with more.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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OP can you explain the pic with the digger in...............what area has been dug / stoned (right where digger is sitting)?
Has it been dug down to earth or was there already sub-base that tarmac sat on?
What is area to the left (stone?) is that being paved?.
Is area where spoil is in middle going to be paved?

If you give dimensions / area I can probably calculate all the material quants for you.... not up to date with prices but at least you can work total costs out for yourself if you end up as I suspect you might.

wjwren

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4,484 posts

137 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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alfie - thanks for your reply . The digger is sat on what was garden. I will post up dimensions tomorrow. The old tarmac drive has just had the top peeled off it and a bit dug off it

Here is a pic before to give you an idea


StuTheGrouch

5,754 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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Is that your 6 series?

Andehh

7,123 posts

208 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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OP - How much have you paid to date? I would be really hesitant about throwing good money after bad. Your builder is bad news frown

Just had out patio done & builders dug it out to 300mm in some places due to not being happy with the ground he was coming across. Double the quantity of MOT he ordered, and didn't charge me the labour. I couldn't have been happier. Got to be 150mm minimum (more if the ground is naff) for the sub layer, anything less risk really compromising it.

Absolutely should *not* be paying in advance. Suppliers gives builders a months credit for the order they put in for a reason, the entire industry is geared towards work first, payment afterwards. Any builder bucking this trend has failed/let down suppliers and can no longer get credit...