Pulled over for tints-Getting 6 points for invalid insurance

Pulled over for tints-Getting 6 points for invalid insurance

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Dingu

3,920 posts

32 months

Thursday 23rd May
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How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.

rscott

14,856 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Foss62 said:
Monkeylegend said:
ConnectionError said:
jm doc said:
911hope said:
jm doc said:
See above. Poster makes a categorical statement then immediately contradicts it by qualifying it, thus rendering it incorrect.

Some insurers accept that it is domestic.
Correction.

It is stated that......Some insurers include commuting in a sdp titled policies. You will find that the policy wording permits commuting.

This is NOT the same as equating commuting to domestic.
Yes the policy describes all the uses that are allowed on a SDP policy, not just commuting, but commuting forms part of the policy. They accept commuting on a domestic policy.

As previously stated, the definition of "domestic" is broad and clearly some insurance companies accept this.
Which insurance companies?
I have already asked but to no avail smile
LV do according to their website.
Not according to this page - https://www.lv.com/car-insurance/is-your-car-insur... .
That mentions both SDP and SDP+C

thejaywills

395 posts

109 months

Thursday 23rd May
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911hope said:
Does not seem likely that the suggested remedies would be effective.

I think you will find that commuting also includes returning from workplace.

Also going to workplace from a claimed other start point is also commuting.
I think you may have mis-intepreted what I was saying or it wasn't clear.. if I was in ops shoes, and the policeman pounced on ''I am going to work", I would immediately have the day off and work from home.

"I intended that I was going to work.. from my mums house remotely for the day so I could be there for a delivery". Commuting is normally termed as commuting to a normal place of work..

E-bmw

9,367 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Alex_225 said:
E-bmw said:
Yes, it counts as commuting.

If it didn't then the drive to the company car park wouldn't count as you walk the last 50 yards.
But to be pedantic, the car park is the work car park and therefore the place of work. The train station is 20 miles away from my place of work.
OK, the roadside just up the street from the office.

It is still commuting.

E-bmw

9,367 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Dingu said:
How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.
Me too.

There is only one answer to the whole SDP/SDP&C debate.

Opinions are meaningless.

What do YOUR terms & conditions state on YOUR insurance paperwork for YOUR car?

The end.

e-honda

9,032 posts

148 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Dingu said:
How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.
Because some people aren't intelligent enough to recognize when something is ambiguous.
All the evidence, the fact the wording on this by insurers has been constantly evolving even in recent years. Cases of the ombudsman siding with the customer, a steady stream of people coming on to this thread saying well I had no idea the insurer took this position I am going to call them.
Despite all that people still want to insist it's black and white and completely obvious.

911hope

2,802 posts

28 months

Thursday 23rd May
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e-honda said:
Dingu said:
How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.
Because some people aren't intelligent enough to recognize when something is ambiguous.
All the evidence, the fact the wording on this by insurers has been constantly evolving even in recent years. Cases of the ombudsman siding with the customer, a steady stream of people coming on to this thread saying well I had no idea the insurer took this position I am going to call them.
Despite all that people still want to insist it's black and white and completely obvious.
All they need to do is read the policy document.

E-bmw

9,367 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd May
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911hope said:
e-honda said:
Dingu said:
How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.
Because some people aren't intelligent enough to recognize when something is ambiguous.
All the evidence, the fact the wording on this by insurers has been constantly evolving even in recent years. Cases of the ombudsman siding with the customer, a steady stream of people coming on to this thread saying well I had no idea the insurer took this position I am going to call them.
Despite all that people still want to insist it's black and white and completely obvious.
All they need to do is read the policy document.
As above, it is black & white.

Read the terms & conditions of YOUR policy on YOUR car, they are in black & white in your email/on the documents online etc.

Roger Irrelevant

3,000 posts

115 months

Thursday 23rd May
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E-bmw said:
911hope said:
e-honda said:
Dingu said:
How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.
Because some people aren't intelligent enough to recognize when something is ambiguous.
All the evidence, the fact the wording on this by insurers has been constantly evolving even in recent years. Cases of the ombudsman siding with the customer, a steady stream of people coming on to this thread saying well I had no idea the insurer took this position I am going to call them.
Despite all that people still want to insist it's black and white and completely obvious.
All they need to do is read the policy document.
As above, it is black & white.

Read the terms & conditions of YOUR policy on YOUR car, they are in black & white in your email/on the documents online etc.
Christ don't say that - some insurers use different coloured backgrounds on their policy docs - Aviva's have quite a bit of yellow for example - so you're only going to confuse people even further. They'll think if the background isn't white it isn't legally binding or something - like those FMOTL loons.


vonhosen

40,301 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Dingu said:
How this is causing people so many issues I have no idea.
Because this is Pistonheads.

Mr Miata

986 posts

52 months

Thursday 23rd May
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“Where are you heading?”

“No comment”

E-bmw

9,367 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Mr Miata said:
“Where are you heading?”

“No comment”
Way to get arrested, good advice..... NOT!

ConnectionError

1,855 posts

71 months

Thursday 23rd May
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E-bmw said:
Mr Miata said:
“Where are you heading?”

“No comment”
Way to get arrested, good advice..... NOT!
Your reply will create a 10 pages of comment as to why your statement is wrong!

boyse7en

6,813 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd May
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E-bmw said:
Mr Miata said:
“Where are you heading?”

“No comment”
Way to get arrested, good advice..... NOT!
Why would the police be able to arrest you for not telling them where you are going?

braddo

10,695 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd May
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If the police suspect that you're evading an answer because of a potential lack of insurance, I don't think that 'no comment' or 'none of your business' is going to help the situation.

E-bmw

9,367 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd May
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braddo said:
If the police suspect that you're evading an answer because of a potential lack of insurance, I don't think that 'no comment' or 'none of your business' is going to help the situation.
^^^^ Wot 'e said.

MustangGT

11,711 posts

282 months

Thursday 23rd May
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jm doc said:
911hope said:
jm doc said:
Yes the policy describes all the uses that are allowed on a SDP policy, not just commuting, but commuting forms part of the policy. They accept commuting on a domestic policy.

As previously stated, the definition of "domestic" is broad and clearly some insurance companies accept this.
So it is a SDP and C policy.
Errrrr, no

rofl
Errrr, yes, it is an SDP and C policy, whatever they choose to call it, or whatever you think it is called.

WrekinCrew

4,668 posts

152 months

Thursday 23rd May
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rscott said:
Not according to this page - https://www.lv.com/car-insurance/is-your-car-insur... .
That mentions both SDP and SDP+C
LV seem to contradict themselves.

It's already been posted once, but (link)

With LV= Car Insurance we define SD&P as including driving to a single workplace, provided there are no business-related stops made during the journey.".

However I'm with LV, have SD&P cover, and my policy doc says "Covered for social, domestic and pleasure use, excluding commuting to work".


Foss62

1,086 posts

67 months

Thursday 23rd May
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rscott said:
Foss62 said:
Monkeylegend said:
ConnectionError said:
jm doc said:
911hope said:
jm doc said:
See above. Poster makes a categorical statement then immediately contradicts it by qualifying it, thus rendering it incorrect.

Some insurers accept that it is domestic.
Correction.

It is stated that......Some insurers include commuting in a sdp titled policies. You will find that the policy wording permits commuting.

This is NOT the same as equating commuting to domestic.
Yes the policy describes all the uses that are allowed on a SDP policy, not just commuting, but commuting forms part of the policy. They accept commuting on a domestic policy.

As previously stated, the definition of "domestic" is broad and clearly some insurance companies accept this.
Which insurance companies?
I have already asked but to no avail smile
LV do according to their website.
Not according to this page - https://www.lv.com/car-insurance/is-your-car-insur... .
That mentions both SDP and SDP+C
This is what I found:
https://www.lv.com/car-insurance/for-car-insurance...
So for all those who are wondering why some PH contributors are a bit confused, it might be due to the actual insurers posting contradictory things….

Foss62

1,086 posts

67 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Foss62 said:
This is what I found:
https://www.lv.com/car-insurance/for-car-insurance...
So for all those who are wondering why some PH contributors are a bit confused, it might be due to the actual insurers posting contradictory things….
Just realised that Wrekin beat me to it and added a further twist. It would be interesting to know what the ‘holier than thous’ and resident experts have to say about this smile.