Police enquiry at home

[Fermit]

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Yes, you really showed me by quoting an example from over 20 years ago with minimal details, using anecdotal evidence from a neighbour who may not have been telling you the full story/entirely truthful.

I could list you all the details, but I've better things to than argue with some irksome guy on the internet not wanting to loose face.

[Retro.74]

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

vonhosen said:

super7 said:

The issue i'd have with the two witness's is their qualifications to judge the offence.....

No special qualifications needed.

This.

Also the independence factor: it's akin to saying that because you and your wife are the only witnesses to someone breaking into your house, then your evidence is worthless because the neighbour across the road didn't also see it.

I hope that someone breaking into a house would be more thoroughly investigated with more than a neighbour who didn't see anything, than someone making an overtaking manoeuvre

[CoolHands]

For the love of god, and all our entertainments, please contest it. Also as the courts are so backlogged it will either take 3 years to get to court or b) be thrown out shortly before it actually goes to court

m’lud

Ps please remember to come back and update!

[SeekerOfTruthAndPies]

Fermit said:

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Yes, you really showed me by quoting an example from over 20 years ago with minimal details, using anecdotal evidence from a neighbour who may not have been telling you the full story/entirely truthful.

I could list you all the details, but I've better things to than argue with some irksome guy on the internet not wanting to loose face.

Apparently you haven't: you started the argument.

• 'lose'

Edited by SeekerOfTruthAndPies on Wednesday 29th June 19:22

[SeekerOfTruthAndPies]

Retro.74 said:

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

vonhosen said:

super7 said:

The issue i'd have with the two witness's is their qualifications to judge the offence.....

No special qualifications needed.

This.

Also the independence factor: it's akin to saying that because you and your wife are the only witnesses to someone breaking into your house, then your evidence is worthless because the neighbour across the road didn't also see it.

I hope that someone breaking into a house would be more thoroughly investigated with more than a neighbour who didn't see anything, than someone making an overtaking manoeuvre

Indeed. Obviously the analogy stretches credibility to breaking point, but the overall point is valid I feel. A witness in Court is a witness in Court, whatever the offence.

[Cat]

the mac said:

Anyone know if I didn’t win my case what they put fines and points up by?

If convicted of careless driving at court the potential penalties are 3 to 9 points or a period of disqualification and a fine of up to £5000.

Cat

[rscott]

Cat said:

the mac said:

Anyone know if I didn’t win my case what they put fines and points up by?

If convicted of careless driving at court the potential penalties are 3 to 9 points or a period of disqualification and a fine of up to £5000.

Cat

Could you advise if a visit was required for the charge or could it have been done in writing instead?

[Cat]

rscott said:

Could you advise if a visit was required for the charge or could it have been done in writing instead?

Usual practice is for someone to be cautioned and charged in person before being reported to the PF. It allows the person to make a reply to the charge if they want to.

It is the exception for someone to reported without being cautioned and charged.

Cat

[Fermit]

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Fermit said:

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Yes, you really showed me by quoting an example from over 20 years ago with minimal details, using anecdotal evidence from a neighbour who may not have been telling you the full story/entirely truthful.

I could list you all the details, but I've better things to than argue with some irksome guy on the internet not wanting to loose face.

Apparently you haven't: you started the argument.

• 'lose'

Edited by SeekerOfTruthAndPies on Wednesday 29th June 19:22

Pathetic

You like Pie then? I've one for you to try. Humble.

[SeekerOfTruthAndPies]

Fermit said:

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Fermit said:

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Yes, you really showed me by quoting an example from over 20 years ago with minimal details, using anecdotal evidence from a neighbour who may not have been telling you the full story/entirely truthful.

I could list you all the details, but I've better things to than argue with some irksome guy on the internet not wanting to loose face.

Apparently you haven't: you started the argument.

• 'lose'

Edited by SeekerOfTruthAndPies on Wednesday 29th June 19:22

Pathetic

You like Pie then? I've one for you to try. Humble.

I thought you had better things to do?

[eldar]

MrBogSmith said:

18 page losers.

I recommend the big boy page size.

[M.F.D]

This was fairly predictable....OP, time to be honest with yourself here. If you think you have dropped the ball and have been hooning about then best just accept it and move on.

Some interesting advice on here, but the fact is that a complaint has been made to the police about your driving and 2 statements have been noted. These corroborate each other and that's enough to charge you with the section 3.

If you are adamant you are NG, then fight it and take advice from a RT lawyer. Without being in receipt of the full circumstances, it's unclear whether it is something that the PF will just pen or not. I feel for you, crap situation, and a decision only you can make.

Comments re you upsetting someone in the police gave me a good chuckle. Some absolute ste gets spouted on here.

[PorkInsider]

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

[MYOB]

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

[Nibbles_bits]

MYOB said:

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

Letting someone know that they are going to be reported for Driving Without Due Care and Attention is though.

[SlimJim16v]

No it doesn't.

[Nibbles_bits]

Oh yes it is

It's not like the OP was inconvenienced in any way......he was awake and out

[monthou]

Nibbles_bits said:

MYOB said:

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

Letting someone know that they are going to be reported for Driving Without Due Care and Attention is though.

The public are telling you you're wrong.

[M.F.D]

SlimJim16v said:

No it doesn't.

It does, you might not like it (probably because you are getting charged) but it is totally justified.

[Nibbles_bits]

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

MYOB said:

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

Letting someone know that they are going to be reported for Driving Without Due Care and Attention is though.

The public are telling you you're wrong.

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.