Police enquiry at home

[MYOB]

Nibbles_bits said:

Oh yes it is

It's not like the OP was inconvenienced in any way......he was awake and out

The police caused some distress with his wife by calling over so late. Not acceptable.

[monthou]

Nibbles_bits said:

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

You have a very warped sense of what the police should be doing if you think they should be knocking people up at midnight for minor driving offences.
That is fked up.

[MYOB]

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

MYOB said:

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

Letting someone know that they are going to be reported for Driving Without Due Care and Attention is though.

The public are telling you you're wrong.

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

No, we aren’t saying what they should be doing. We are saying what they shouldn’t be doing.

[Nibbles_bits]

MYOB said:

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

MYOB said:

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

Letting someone know that they are going to be reported for Driving Without Due Care and Attention is though.

The public are telling you you're wrong.

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

No, we aren’t saying what they should be doing. We are saying what they shouldn’t be doing.

And yet no clue on either

[Nibbles_bits]

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

You have a very warped sense of what the police should be doing if you think they should be knocking people up at midnight for minor driving offences.
That is fked up.

If the Officer isn't commited with anything else, do you suggest they just put their feet up? Or do the job they are paid to do??

[Nibbles_bits]

MYOB said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Oh yes it is

It's not like the OP was inconvenienced in any way......he was awake and out

The police caused some distress with his wife by calling over so late. Not acceptable.

What's so distressing about the Police ringing the doorbell and then leaving??

[monthou]

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

You have a very warped sense of what the police should be doing if you think they should be knocking people up at midnight for minor driving offences.
That is fked up.

If the Officer isn't commited with anything else, do you suggest they just put their feet up? Or do the job they are paid to do??

I suggested knocking someone up at midnight for a minor motoring offence is fked up.
Not sure what you're finding difficult about that.

[Nibbles_bits]

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

You have a very warped sense of what the police should be doing if you think they should be knocking people up at midnight for minor driving offences.
That is fked up.

If the Officer isn't commited with anything else, do you suggest they just put their feet up? Or do the job they are paid to do??

I suggested knocking someone up at midnight for a minor motoring offence is fked up.
Not sure what you're finding difficult about that.

You might think it's f**cked up, but it's part of the job.

[monthou]

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

You have a very warped sense of what the police should be doing if you think they should be knocking people up at midnight for minor driving offences.
That is fked up.

If the Officer isn't commited with anything else, do you suggest they just put their feet up? Or do the job they are paid to do??

I suggested knocking someone up at midnight for a minor motoring offence is fked up.
Not sure what you're finding difficult about that.

You might think it's f**cked up, but it's part of the job.

Then that part of the job is fked up.
There might be a justification if you've already tried in normal hours.

If you think that sort of behaviour has the support of the public I think you're crackers. More likely you don't care either way.

[Nibbles_bits]

How do we know they didn't try during "normal" hours??

[monthou]

Nibbles_bits said:

How do we know they didn't try during "normal" hours??

If they did then either they didn't leave a card or the OP hasn't seen fit to mention it. Either of which would be a bit weird.

[the tribester]

Would a 11pm knock be OK?

[monthou]

the tribester said:

Would a 11pm knock be OK?

Are you or have you been in the police?
I ask because there seems to be a clear split between those who think it's absolutely fine and everyone else.

[Matt_E_Mulsion]

I think that the OP needs to fill in some blanks.

The police went to his house and left a card asking for him by name.

The meeting with the police reveals that they want to charge him with a motoring offence.

The OP has not said at what point he has admitted to being the driver involved and to admit that he was must surely mean that he knows what incident they are referring too.

There is more detail to this than the OP is letting on in my opinion.

[Damp Logs]

I’ve read the whole thread, and don’t think I’ve missed it but,

How did the police know the OP was driving at the time of alleged incident? - wouldn’t they need to contact the registered keeper by letter with NIP????

As others have said, has OP admitted he was driving??

On the issue of calling at midnight, it does seem a little unnecessary, given the time elapsed since the offence.


And any job, all jobs, are 90% communication, and it appears the officer failed this part of the job.

And clearly the OP has worried about it, and rightly so if it could cost him points and a fine.

I’m fortunate/lucky that my interactions with police have been few and in the past (hopefully)

Just my two pennies.

[the mac]

I don’t believe there are any blanks that I have left out, they had my name because I’m the registered keeper of the car, I haven’t admitted anything although it is my car and I’m the only driver. I denied knowing anything about the incident and still don’t know anything about what allegedly took place. It is on a road I sometimes use and I do often overtake slow moving traffic it’s a 60 limit and there are often cars travelling at 40 etc.
They issued the fixed penalty noted that I said I know nothing about it and feel free to take it to court.
This thread was created as I wanted opinions whether the midnight call was necessary, I then updated it with what the police wanted. Other than a select few nearly everyone seems to agree there was no need for the midnight call.

[PorkInsider]

MYOB said:

PorkInsider said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Just so we're clear.......is it unreasonable for the Police to speak with a suspected offender at midnight??

For the offence the OP is accused of, with the timescale described?

Is it fk.

Allegedly causing someone to brake sharply does not warrant a midnight call. Why can’t people understand this?

I read the "is it unreasonable" as "is it reasonable", unfortunately.

My "is it fk" should have been "yes it is".

It's absolutely unreasonable to be knocking on doors at midnight to tell someone they're in trouble over an alleged minor motoring matter some weeks earlier.

Anyone who thinks it's reasonable is bonkers (or likely a past or present member of the force, as we've found from this thread).

[selym]

Matt_E_Mulsion said:

I think that the OP needs to fill in some blanks.

The police went to his house and left a card asking for him by name.

The meeting with the police reveals that they want to charge him with a motoring offence.

The OP has not said at what point he has admitted to being the driver involved and to admit that he was must surely mean that he knows what incident they are referring too.

There is more detail to this than the OP is letting on in my opinion.

Could you remember every driving manoeuvre you carried out in May? Would you expect him to? If not then why would he admit anything? Where are the gaps?

It seems to me that this appears like an easy collar to the Police, ramping up the drama by visiting at midnight to give him something to think about. He's then got the choice - £100 fine and it all goes away or a much worse potential outcome if he contests it. Result: the couple who feel aggrieved get some feeling of 'justice', plod get their man, driver only gets stung with a £100 fine and the police (appear to) have done their job - all on the back of uncorroborated statements.

Good luck with whatever path you choose OP.

[the mac]

Cheers selym

[Antony Moxey]

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

monthou said:

Nibbles_bits said:

Some of the public .....

Having read a lot of these forums, PH'ers have a very warped sense on what the Police should be doing.

You have a very warped sense of what the police should be doing if you think they should be knocking people up at midnight for minor driving offences.
That is fked up.

If the Officer isn't commited with anything else, do you suggest they just put their feet up? Or do the job they are paid to do??

I suggested knocking someone up at midnight for a minor motoring offence is fked up.
Not sure what you're finding difficult about that.

Not only that, but an alleged offence that took place weeks ago, yet the first opportunity to interview the alleged perp is six weeks later at midnight. As for plod’s reply that what else were they supposed to - I’d imagine quite a bit actually, given how often we’re told how overworked the police are.

Is it any wonder confidence in the police in general is so low given their abject refusal to see that middle of the night house calls for non-urgent matters is unreasonable?