Can a school confiscate a mobile phone for more than a day?

Can a school confiscate a mobile phone for more than a day?

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jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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herewego said:
doogz said:
carmonk said:
doogz said:
carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
Do you take a phone to work? No?
Still being an ahole, then?
No, i'm asking a genuine question. Who's being the ahole, then?
Can we not argue in front of the children please.
roflroflrofl

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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zaphod42 said:
OP - kudos to you for reaching out to understand your rights and engage in the discussion.
I'm not sure whether to shout out "Bullst Bingo!" or "Internet Grooming Alert!" smile


zaphod42

50,763 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Bluebarge said:
I'm not sure whether to shout out "Bullst Bingo!" or "Internet Grooming Alert!" smile
No, I meant it. Too many kids idly playing games or dossing about - and not engaging to find out what their rights are.

The OP has found the right forum, asked an intelligent question, and asked for advice....

Du1point8

21,613 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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doogz said:
carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
Do you take a phone to work? No?
Yes I do but unless you have a bloody good reason to answer it you are not allowed to.

Cant see why kids need to take them into lessons and use them and distract the teacher and moan about it when its taken off them.

In a business environment we would regularly take the battery out of phones that were left on desks and ringing and managers would have a word with the off shore folk for disturbing the london office cause they couldn't be without texting and chatting to their mates every 5 seconds.

Camaro91

2,675 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Just apologise tommorow, get your phone back, and don't use it in lesson again you smart-arsed little st.

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carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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doogz said:
carmonk said:
doogz said:
carmonk said:
doogz said:
carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
Do you take a phone to work? No?
Still being an ahole, then?
No, i'm asking a genuine question. Who's being the ahole, then?
Of course I've taken a phone to work.
Odd. I thought work was for working. I'm sure you'll now call me some more names, and tell me it's different, so tbh, don't bother.
I'm just puzzled why you'd take issue with me calling you an ahole and in the very next post prove that I was correct. You could at least make the effort.

If anybody else would like me to explain why an adult might want to take a phone to work, or how an adult might carry a phone without it interfering in their working day, just let me know and I'll be happy to explain.

Big Al.

68,913 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Guys if you can't be civil to each other then don't post, anymore abusive posts and your ability to post on this thread or others may be curtailed.

No more warnings, as you were.......

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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doogz said:
carmonk said:
I'm just puzzled why you'd take issue with me calling you an ahole and in the very next post prove that I was correct. You could at least make the effort.

If anybody else would like me to explain why an adult might want to take a phone to work, or how an adult might carry a phone without it interfering in their working day, just let me know and I'll be happy to explain.
Do you just walk about in public calling people names like that?
No, I tend to be more direct.

doogz said:
That aside, the kid knows he shouldn't have had his phone out in class, and he understands why it was taken off him. That's not what the thread is about. Try reading it, it might help.
I understand what the thread is about. If schools didn't allow phones then this issue would never have arisen, which is why I commented. Something I'd be happy to discuss with anyone who doesn't have a history of single-sentence trolling.

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Shall we assume that last one crossed in the mail?! hehe

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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I reckon it's theft, I'd be pretty pissed off if it was my child that had it taken off them.

As for the people decrying children having phones, why do you have a car? People did perfectly fine without them, houses seem mightily excessive when we can have a cave for free. rolleyes

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Mr Gearchange said:
Oh FFS. Yes it's lethal having your phone taken off you. Before 1994 60% of children died on their way home from school through an inability to make emergency calls.

Oh and OP - haven't you got some homework to do?

fking school kids moaning about the teacher taking their phone off them. FFS
The same rules apply to the workplace so are you saying you would be happy for your boss to keep your phone out of work time?

zaphod42

50,763 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Silent1 said:
I reckon it's theft, I'd be pretty pissed off if it was my child that had it taken off them.

As for the people decrying children having phones, why do you have a car? People did perfectly fine without them, houses seem mightily excessive when we can have a cave for free. rolleyes
Free caves? Ace... I'll have 2 please...

(attempts to restore some humour to the thread)

kamilb1998

Original Poster:

2,220 posts

178 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
Officially we're not allowed them in school, but teacher's know that the majority have them. Most teachers will confiscate phones but usually students have the right to have them back at the end of the day. But in my case I got told I am not allowed my phone until after school tomorrow.

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Silent1 said:
I reckon it's theft, I'd be pretty pissed off if it was my child that had it taken off them.

As for the people decrying children having phones, why do you have a car? People did perfectly fine without them, houses seem mightily excessive when we can have a cave for free. rolleyes
Are you suggesting we give children cars? After all, why not? If they need everything an adult needs then we should give them cars. We should also allow them to have a couple of pints at lunchtime, seeing as us adults often do.

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Silent1 said:
I reckon it's theft, I'd be pretty pissed off if it was my child that had it taken off them.

As for the people decrying children having phones, why do you have a car? People did perfectly fine without them, houses seem mightily excessive when we can have a cave for free. rolleyes
Not 'for free', just 'free'...

You're not one of those parents that thinks the sun shines out of their behind irrespective of their behaviour, are you? Surely your first thought if your child's phone has been taken is to consider [b] why [/b} that might have happened in the first place..?

pip t

1,365 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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jazzyjeff said:
Kevin VRs said:
It is somewhat simple if you think of the definition of theft.

Intention to permanently deprive somebody of something that belongs to them.

They must return it or they can be charged with theft.
But would in this case retention beyond school hours be considered an "intention to permanently deprive"?

What if the teacher said "you can have it back at the end of the week"? scratchchin
This is why in my earlier post I said it probably wouldn't count as theft - an intention to permanently deprive isn't there, it's a temporary deprevation. I don't think the school should do it, but I think probably legally not theft.

herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Silent1 said:
I reckon it's theft, I'd be pretty pissed off if it was my child that had it taken off them.

As for the people decrying children having phones, why do you have a car? People did perfectly fine without them, houses seem mightily excessive when we can have a cave for free. rolleyes
It isn't theft and it's no wonder teachers struggle with parents undermining them.

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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kamilb1998 said:
carmonk said:
Unbelievable that kids are allowed phones in school. I thought school was for learning stuff, not pissing around.
Officially we're not allowed them in school, but teacher's know that the majority have them. Most teachers will confiscate phones but usually students have the right to have them back at the end of the day. But in my case I got told I am not allowed my phone until after school tomorrow.
Well I don't know about regulations but when I was at school, if you had something you weren't allowed you'd get it back either at the end of the day, the end of the week, or never. In this instance, if everybody has phones and they shouldn't that's probably because they know if they get caught they'll only have to wait a few hours to get the phone back. If they thought they were going to have to go without it for a week they'd reconsider breaking the rules.

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Its up to the school to inform the parent as to why a phone has been removed during school hours and then it is up to the parent to take it further

For the school to assume parental responsibility after school has ended is wrong - end of

pip t

1,365 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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R0G said:
Its up to the school to inform the parent as to why a phone has been removed during school hours and then it is up to the parent to take it further

For the school to assume parental responsibility after school has ended is wrong - end of
^^^^^^^^ This I wholeheartedly agree with.....