Euro tunnel bump.... Insurance/ Liability
Discussion
KrazyIvan said:
Having been on the tunnel train a few times, I know where you coming from, but the onus on stopping your car safely still lies with you.
Did you do much damage to the other car?
I did stop the car. THats what caused the issue ;o)Did you do much damage to the other car?
No luckily no visable so this may not come to anythign I just wondered if people had other experinces of similar situations.
Exige77 said:
Is the OP for real or is this where compensation culture has led us ?
Sad
Ex77
I'm sorry you feel that way, I won't be claiming it's more if he claims against me. Sad
Ex77
I feel they have some liability on this. People who have travelled on the euro tunnel seem a lot more understanding.
funkymonk said:
KrazyIvan said:
Having been on the tunnel train a few times, I know where you coming from, but the onus on stopping your car safely still lies with you.
Did you do much damage to the other car?
I did stop the car. THats what caused the issue ;o)Did you do much damage to the other car?
No luckily no visable so this may not come to anythign I just wondered if people had other experinces of similar situations.
have seen it happen a few times but never been involved, so cant say if anyone has tried to recover damages from the train operator, i suspect it would cost far more then its worth, to see if you could set some sort of legal precedent that would mean they would have to take partial responsibility for parking cars so close together.
funkymonk said:
I did stop the car. THats what caused the issue ;o)
No luckily no visable so this may not come to anythign I just wondered if people had other experinces of similar situations.
Unfortunately this comes down to basic car control, no offence. Cars will drive themselves in gear.No luckily no visable so this may not come to anythign I just wondered if people had other experinces of similar situations.
saaby93 said:
zaphod42 said:
PintOfKittens said:
What I did was put in neutral, handbrake on, turn car off, then put into first gear.
This^^^^^^If they caused you to hit the car in front by asking yo to keep moving forward and you hit the car then I would say its possibly 50/50 at a push.
However you stalled the car therefore you were not in proper control of your vehicle and there you are at fault.
Regardless of how close you park to the car in front its still your responsibility to be in control.
trying to say that you don't par that close to the car in front doesn't add anything... its no different then parking in a multi story carpark near a wall, or do you always ram that and blame the wall?
However you stalled the car therefore you were not in proper control of your vehicle and there you are at fault.
Regardless of how close you park to the car in front its still your responsibility to be in control.
trying to say that you don't par that close to the car in front doesn't add anything... its no different then parking in a multi story carpark near a wall, or do you always ram that and blame the wall?
KrazyIvan said:
Using the car in front doesn't count
have seen it happen a few times but never been involved, so cant say if anyone has tried to recover damages from the train operator, i suspect it would cost far more then its worth, to see if you could set some sort of legal precedent that would mean they would have to take partial responsibility for parking cars so close together.
Should they not have a responsibility to park cars safely??have seen it happen a few times but never been involved, so cant say if anyone has tried to recover damages from the train operator, i suspect it would cost far more then its worth, to see if you could set some sort of legal precedent that would mean they would have to take partial responsibility for parking cars so close together.
funkymonk said:
I'm sorry you feel that way, I won't be claiming it's more if he claims against me.
I feel they have some liability on this. People who have travelled on the euro tunnel seem a lot more understanding.
Checking google it doesnt look good.I feel they have some liability on this. People who have travelled on the euro tunnel seem a lot more understanding.
If it's only a parking bump, the bumpers should have been resilient enough to take care of it - thats what theyre for.
If the other party does ask you to pay for a couple of scratches either settle outside insurance or try telling him it was eurotunnels fault and see what happens!
Report back if it's a whiplash claim
funkymonk said:
I'm sorry you feel that way, I won't be claiming it's more if he claims against me.
I feel they have some liability on this. People who have travelled on the euro tunnel seem a lot more understanding.
Well I've used it 30+ times a year since it opened, sorry I don't understand at all!I feel they have some liability on this. People who have travelled on the euro tunnel seem a lot more understanding.
funkymonk said:
And what would be the case if our parked vechiles hit whilst on the crossing, they would be liable.
My point is not specifically with the person who parked me but that parking cars so close has potential issues to consider.
When the Eurotunnel employee told you to stop, had you already hit the car in front? No. He had instructed you to park your car close to, but not touching the car in front. All you had to do was stop the engine, apply the handbrake and engage first gear in a stationary vehicle without crashing. My point is not specifically with the person who parked me but that parking cars so close has potential issues to consider.
You failed to do this. If you are unable to perform this "manoeuvre" without hitting another vehicle, I would seriously question whether you should be driving anyway, but that's not for me to decide.
You are 100% liable for the damage, don't think for a moment you'll get anything other than a Gallic shrug from Eurotunnel.
funkymonk said:
I did stop the car. THats what caused the issue ;o)
No luckily no visable so this may not come to anythign I just wondered if people had other experinces of similar situations.
As I see it, there are two separate issues here;No luckily no visable so this may not come to anythign I just wondered if people had other experinces of similar situations.
1. The stewards directed you where to stop, such that it provides the optimum balance of safety if/when the train has to perform emergency braking. This did not result in your collision with the car in front.
2. The collision with the car in front was caused due to you being distracted, as you say, by the comotion.
Unless you are saying, and can prove, that you stalled the car directly because you were stopped close to the car in front, then unfoortunately, the colision was solely your fault.
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