I got caught...

[LoonR1]

Funk said:

Tbh, it seems most insurers treat SAC the same as points now anyway (never used to have to declare the SAC bust most ask now). I'd just take the points and avoid having to do the course I think.

More bullst

Let's see your evidence of this. I'll give you Admiral and their brands, bell, elephant, Gladiator. Now show me more anyone of the big players will do to support your argument. No price comparison websites though, just insurers.

[btcc123]

LoonR1 said:

Funk said:

Tbh, it seems most insurers treat SAC the same as points now anyway (never used to have to declare the SAC bust most ask now). I'd just take the points and avoid having to do the course I think.

More bullst

Let's see your evidence of this. I'll give you Admiral and their brands, bell, elephant, Gladiator. Now show me more anyone of the big players will do to support your argument. No price comparison websites though, just insurers.

Yes when I rang to renew my Admiral Multi car policy they asked me several questions of which one was have you been on a SAC.When I said yes they said it is an automatic £40 added to my renewal.I then said ok but I dont want to renew my policy and will go somewhere else,she replied that they can give discounts so reduced my and my wifes car by £20 so pretty much paid the same as last year.

[btcc123]

SidJames said:

btcc123 said:

Also you either get 3 points and a £100 fine or a speed awareness course that costs £85.

You do not get a speed awareness course and a fine.

Jeez, some pedants on here today.

The cost (read fine) of a SAC varies by region, I paid a £100 "fine" for mine. Now go back to your homework, along with the other custard tosspots.

When you book a holiday do you think of the cost as a fine.

Assole

[LoonR1]

btcc123 said:

LoonR1 said:

Funk said:

Tbh, it seems most insurers treat SAC the same as points now anyway (never used to have to declare the SAC bust most ask now). I'd just take the points and avoid having to do the course I think.

More bullst

Let's see your evidence of this. I'll give you Admiral and their brands, bell, elephant, Gladiator. Now show me more anyone of the big players will do to support your argument. No price comparison websites though, just insurers.

Yes when I rang to renew my Admiral Multi car policy they asked me several questions of which one was have you been on a SAC.When I said yes they said it is an automatic £40 added to my renewal.I then said ok but I dont want to renew my policy and will go somewhere else,she replied that they can give discounts so reduced my and my wifes car by £20 so pretty much paid the same as last year.

I know Admiral and their brands ask. I want Funk to tell me who else does, especially as hell have done a load of research to support his assertion.

[Sheepshanks]

HantsRat said:

raddish said:

Thanks for the info, it was in Hants so looks like its points.

I work for hantpol. Unfortunately it will be points.

Won't it be written up as 53MPH to keep the retired Bibs who run the courses in beer money?

[LoonR1]

Sheepshanks said:

HantsRat said:

raddish said:

Thanks for the info, it was in Hants so looks like its points.

I work for hantpol. Unfortunately it will be points.

Won't it be written up as 53MPH to keep the retired Bibs who run the courses in beer money?

Yes, because the cash just gets handed over to them

You're a proper wibblist aren't you.

[Sheepshanks]

LoonR1 said:

Yes, because the cash just gets handed over to them

Of course it does.

Most counties now run them in several locations - in Staffs, which I'm familiar with, they're running them in 5 locations, 6 days a week morning and afternoon, and evening in some locations.

So they've got to keep the candidates rolling in - someone who's over the threshold is a disaster.

[E92Dan]

I got done in Towcester for doing 34mph in a 30mph zone

[LoonR1]

Sheepshanks said:

LoonR1 said:

Yes, because the cash just gets handed over to them

Of course it does.

Most counties now run them in several locations - in Staffs, which I'm familiar with, they're running them in 5 locations, 6 days a week morning and afternoon, and evening in some locations.

So they've got to keep the candidates rolling in - someone who's over the threshold is a disaster.

Yes just like you've described

PC Trafpol pulls over a speeder and thinks, "you know what. Sod the truth, I'm going to write this and every form out as an SAC speed instead, because I've got that power and then all the money is handed straight to my old, now retired, partner, Stevie A Course"

How have you managed to live this long with such a poor view of the world?

[Mk3Spitfire]

Sheepshanks said:

LoonR1 said:

Yes, because the cash just gets handed over to them

Of course it does.

Most counties now run them in several locations - in Staffs, which I'm familiar with, they're running them in 5 locations, 6 days a week morning and afternoon, and evening in some locations.

So they've got to keep the candidates rolling in - someone who's over the threshold is a disaster.

Yes...mornings, afternoons, evenings, 6 days a week, all over the place. It's ALMOST as if they're trying to make it more accessible for people? (Sorry if this doesn't sit well with your skewed view of the SAC system).

If they really just wanted you to hand over your money, they would make it 9-5 mon to fri without exception, and if you missed it would increase the fine.

[Sheepshanks]

Mk3Spitfire said:

Yes...mornings, afternoons, evenings, 6 days a week, all over the place. It's ALMOST as if they're trying to make it more accessible for people? (Sorry if this doesn't sit well with your skewed view of the SAC system).

If they really just wanted you to hand over your money, they would make it 9-5 mon to fri without exception, and if you missed it would increase the fine.

No, that wouldn't work because they don't get to keep the money from fixed penalties or fines anymore.

[LoonR1]

E92Dan said:

I got done in Towcester for doing 34mph in a 30mph zone

The done thing is to provide proof, as others have posted the same, but without any evidence

I shagged Kate Upton last week.

[E92Dan]

LoonR1 said:

The done thing is to provide proof, as others have posted the same, but without any evidence

I shagged Kate Upton last week.

To be honest I don't really care if you believe me or you dont

[LoonR1]

E92Dan said:

LoonR1 said:

The done thing is to provide proof, as others have posted the same, but without any evidence

I shagged Kate Upton last week.

To be honest I don't really care if you believe me or you dont

I don't give a flying wotsit whether you did or didn't. I suggested that others are asking for proof from a poster on here already amd will do the same for you. You obviously care enough to post.

I won the Euromillions earlier this evening.

[E92Dan]

LoonR1 said:

I don't give a flying wotsit whether you did or didn't. I suggested that others are asking for proof from a poster on here already amd will do the same for you. You obviously care enough to post.

I won the Euromillions earlier this evening.

Well done. Spend it wisely.

[eldar]

Mk3Spitfire said:

Yes...mornings, afternoons, evenings, 6 days a week, all over the place. It's ALMOST as if they're trying to make it more accessible for people? (Sorry if this doesn't sit well with your skewed view of the SAC system).

If they really just wanted you to hand over your money, they would make it 9-5 mon to fri without exception, and if you missed it would increase the fine.

Be fair, SAC is an industry now, established and profitable. 12 people at £100 a time. Twice a day, 3 days a week. Compulsory, non flexible attendance would have the punters taking points, and impact the bottom line, bad for business. Beats dealing with criminals and adds a few grand to the pension.

They ought to extend the scheme to other crimes. Burglary awareness courses for the small time thieves?

[silverfoxcc]

E92Dan said:

I got done in Towcester for doing 34mph in a 30mph zone

I have NEVER EVER seen on here solid evidence of a speeding offence NIP stating anything less than 35 mph in a30 limit,and i dont think anyone else has, despite all the claims ( two on this thread) of them being done.
Thre has been claims of 31-34 mph but nothing has ever been posted. My one was for 35 in a 30 and that is the minimum they will do you for, anything less is just pub talk. Put up a photo of th NIP and i will donate £10.00 to a charity of you choice..... Oh you have thrown the paperwork away???????

[Stoofa]

silverfoxcc said:

I have NEVER EVER seen on here solid evidence of a speeding offence NIP stating anything less than 35 mph in a30 limit,and i dont think anyone else has, despite all the claims ( two on this thread) of them being done.
Thre has been claims of 31-34 mph but nothing has ever been posted. My one was for 35 in a 30 and that is the minimum they will do you for, anything less is just pub talk. Put up a photo of th NIP and i will donate £10.00 to a charity of you choice..... Oh you have thrown the paperwork away???????

As I said earlier - same position. Loads of people claim, but evidence hard to come by.
I'll match that pledge.

[LoonR1]

eldar said:

Be fair, SAC is an industry now, established and profitable. 12 people at £100 a time. Twice a day, 3 days a week. Compulsory, non flexible attendance would have the punters taking points, and impact the bottom line, bad for business. Beats dealing with criminals and adds a few grand to the pension.

They ought to extend the scheme to other crimes. Burglary awareness courses for the small time thieves?

This makes no sense at all. If SACs didn't exist then it'd be 3 points and £100 fine. You still have the option to take the points.

Or are you naive enough to think that if there were no SACs all of a sudden you'd get away with it?

[HantsRat]

Sheepshanks said:

Won't it be written up as 53MPH to keep the retired Bibs who run the courses in beer money?

No.