I want to take legal action — PCP Finance

I want to take legal action — PCP Finance

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P4D

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250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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hornetrider said:
Is an 18 month old Abarth really only worth 7k? How much was it new?
Was £14,995 new. With the mileage taken into consideration, that's probably all I'll get. WBAC quoted £8k.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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P4D said:
hornetrider said:
Is an 18 month old Abarth really only worth 7k? How much was it new?
Was £14,995 new. With the mileage taken into consideration, that's probably all I'll get. WBAC quoted £8k.
I'm curious as to how the finance deal was constructed for you to be that far behind the game that you're 4k in the hole. You've paid a deposit and 18 months payments yet still owe £11.5k. Was it a small deposit and a big balloon?

P4D

Original Poster:

250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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hornetrider said:
I'm curious as to how the finance deal was constructed for you to be that far behind the game that you're 4k in the hole. You've paid a deposit and 18 months payments yet still owe £11.5k. Was it a small deposit and a big balloon?
Deposit was one months payment. Balloon is £6k

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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It's a 4 year deal I take it?!

Oh dear. I think you're stuck with it for a while yet!

liner33

10,705 posts

203 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Yep might only be worth £8k but you've only paid £4k for it , not even close to the depreciation

PCP deals are great but you need to go into any finance deal with your eyes wide open , truth is if you have £200 per month spend on a car you should be in a £3k one not a £15k one

P4D

Original Poster:

250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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hornetrider said:
It's a 4 year deal I take it?!

Oh dear. I think you're stuck with it for a while yet!
Yup!

P4D

Original Poster:

250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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liner33 said:
Yep might only be worth £8k but you've only paid £4k for it , not even close to the depreciation

PCP deals are great but you need to go into any finance deal with your eyes wide open , truth is if you have £200 per month spend on a car you should be in a £3k one not a £15k one
Huge lesson learnt I'll tell you. Never had a car on PCP before so went to the dealership, seen a car I liked and signed the contract all in the same day. No research was carried out prior which I massively regret.

liner33

10,705 posts

203 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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P4D said:
Huge lesson learnt I'll tell you. Never had a car on PCP before so went to the dealership, seen a car I liked and signed the contract all in the same day. No research was carried out prior which I massively regret.
We've all been there one way or another, we live and learn

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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liner33 said:
P4D said:
Huge lesson learnt I'll tell you. Never had a car on PCP before so went to the dealership, seen a car I liked and signed the contract all in the same day. No research was carried out prior which I massively regret.
We've all been there one way or another, we live and learn
Aye. OP - you won't be able to hand it back but hopefully getting Abarth involved will resolve all the issues to your satisfaction and you'll have a decent little car to enjoy instead of a lemon!

P4D

Original Poster:

250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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hornetrider said:
Aye. OP - you won't be able to hand it back but hopefully getting Abarth involved will resolve all the issues to your satisfaction and you'll have a decent little car to enjoy instead of a lemon!
It sounded a lot more promising speaking to them on the phone than it has speaking to my dealer.

nikaiyo2

4,781 posts

196 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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oceanview said:
Never mind PCP- I think the problem is F.i.a.t .

Stay away from rubbish in future!!
LOL I have driven A500s since 2009, 3 different cars and in that time, had a bent suspension lower arm thing in one then not very cold AC and a stiff seat in the current one, that's it, all repaired under warranty, Compared to my old Audi that used to destroy gearboxes like they were going out of fashion lol. Oh and the squeaky reversing brake thing they all do.
Saying that a mate of mine got one roughly the same time as my 2nd one and no end of trouble with it.

Op what dealer is it? Your experience is vastly different to mine, they come and pick my car up if a courtesy car is not available!

Also might be worth checking that used value, it's about what I got for a 5 year old car with 40k miles!



davamer23

1,127 posts

155 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Try Fiat, if there's no satisfactory outcome from there go to AutoExpress magazine.

P4D

Original Poster:

250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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nikaiyo2 said:
LOL I have driven A500s since 2009, 3 different cars and in that time, had a bent suspension lower arm thing in one then not very cold AC and a stiff seat in the current one, that's it, all repaired under warranty, Compared to my old Audi that used to destroy gearboxes like they were going out of fashion lol. Oh and the squeaky reversing brake thing they all do.
Saying that a mate of mine got one roughly the same time as my 2nd one and no end of trouble with it.

Op what dealer is it? Your experience is vastly different to mine, they come and pick my car up if a courtesy car is not available!

Also might be worth checking that used value, it's about what I got for a 5 year old car with 40k miles!
Mines from Arnold Clark, Salford. They were the closest dealer to myself that sold them.

P4D

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250 posts

99 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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davamer23 said:
Try Fiat, if there's no satisfactory outcome from there go to AutoExpress magazine.
Cheers, I'll take it into consideration if nothing is resolved soon.

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

205 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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If you get really sick to the back teeth of it it might be worth talking to the finance company?
They may be receptive to changing to something else if you are prepared to be flexible - like being prepared to take something else they have kicking around. You can I think get all high and mighty with the finance company - keeping it civil may work better initially at least.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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hornetrider said:
P4D said:
At this point i'll be out of pocket by about £4000. Being a student, this isn't an option for me i'm afraid.
I hate to be that guy - but my mind boggles. You're a student but running round in a PCP'd brand new Abarth at over 200pcm? And yet you can't afford to simply sell it because you're in over your head with the finance?

When I was a student I had a £1500 Metro. There's no PCP on those.
Typical bourgeoise student - I made do with a £600 Fiesta.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
hornetrider said:
P4D said:
At this point i'll be out of pocket by about £4000. Being a student, this isn't an option for me i'm afraid.
I hate to be that guy - but my mind boggles. You're a student but running round in a PCP'd brand new Abarth at over 200pcm? And yet you can't afford to simply sell it because you're in over your head with the finance?

When I was a student I had a £1500 Metro. There's no PCP on those.
Typical bourgeoise student - I made do with a £600 Fiesta.
Yeah but I lived in a tent in a muddy field. I'll bet you lived in a shared house with your other oligarch mates.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
hornetrider said:
P4D said:
At this point i'll be out of pocket by about £4000. Being a student, this isn't an option for me i'm afraid.
I hate to be that guy - but my mind boggles. You're a student but running round in a PCP'd brand new Abarth at over 200pcm? And yet you can't afford to simply sell it because you're in over your head with the finance?

When I was a student I had a £1500 Metro. There's no PCP on those.
Typical bourgeoise student - I made do with a £600 Fiesta.
Life of luxury. I made do with a bicycle (and no, it didn't have any carbon fibre bits on it). hehe

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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P4D said:
Mines from Arnold Clark, Salford. They were the closest dealer to myself that sold them.
Think we might have got to the bottom of the problem! wink

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Granfondo said:
P4D said:
Mines from Arnold Clark, Salford. They were the closest dealer to myself that sold them.
Think we might have got to the bottom of the problem! wink
Indeed. hehe