Caught for speeding Germany

[N Dentressangle]

PP11 said:

Makes a more sense then. Can't pinpoint where it was but 60 kph limit on the B108, outside a built up area ... maybe a nice tunnel. No photo provided.

It was somewhere southbound on the B108 here:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/9971+Matrei+in...

There's an exact km marker point given, but buggered if I know where that is.

Edited by N Dentressangle on Tuesday 14th November 19:20

[TooMany2cvs]

Catatafish said:

I love how Boris Bvlodla gets treated with bile and disdain if he comes over and abuses traffic law, yet if it's us over there how dare they!!! Dont they know we're british etc. etc.

About par for the course, really.

[cmaguire]

Catatafish said:

I love how Boris Bvlodla gets treated with bile and disdain if he comes over and abuses traffic law, yet if it's us over there how dare they!!! Dont they know we're british etc. etc.

Where did that come from?

[cmaguire]

TooMany2cvs said:

cmaguire said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Quite. Possession of a UK passport and GB sticker should be equivalent to full diplomatic immunity, dammit!

Works both ways.

Yes, it does.

Except the other way round has been in operation for longer.

In practice the UK haven't been requesting it though have they?

[mario64]

SantaBarbara said:

Rewe said:

Just curious now.......if a UK driver with a UK driving license met the criteria for a ban in Germany because they had been speeding in Germany and needed to drive in Germany during the period that the ban should be in place, what would happen when he/she arrived at the border?

Depends whether they had a UK license or a German license perhaps.

In the UK the DVLA creates a 'shadow license' for foreign drivers who get caught in the UK. When the points on the shadow license are enough to get a ban, the driver is considered banned from driving in the UK. I've no idea if they actually confiscate your physical license. I imagine Germany has a similar system?

[TooMany2cvs]

cmaguire said:

TooMany2cvs said:

cmaguire said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Quite. Possession of a UK passport and GB sticker should be equivalent to full diplomatic immunity, dammit!

Works both ways.

Yes, it does.

Except the other way round has been in operation for longer.

In practice the UK haven't been requesting it though have they?

And you know that... how?

[jahill]

mario64 said:

In the UK the DVLA creates a 'shadow license' for foreign drivers who get caught in the UK. When the points on the shadow license are enough to get a ban, the driver is considered banned from driving in the UK. I've no idea if they actually confiscate your physical license. I imagine Germany has a similar system?

I'd be willing to bet they have something similar. Having lived there, I can say that if someone is deemed guilty of an offence, they will stop at nothing to find that person (which is probably the right thing to do).

Where I lived, there was an instance where a car hit a lamp post and drove off without reporting it. The police had the paint analysed to figure out both the manufacturer and year of the car and put a team together to find him. The chap was found and not only got in trouble for not reporting the accident, but got sent a bill for both the forensics and police time it took to track him down (so cases like these become self-funding)!

Even if this was a bill for 2000 Euro, I'd be inclined to pay it if you are ever likely to step foot in Germany again!

[Red Devil]

jahill said:

The police had the paint analysed to figure out both the manufacturer and year of the car and put a team together to find him.

I can't see how it would help that much without some other evidence (e.g, a partial registration number).
While it will obviously narrow the field, it could still leave hundreds, even thousands, of potential suspects.
Would such a degree of resource be employed over here?

[TooMany2cvs]

Red Devil said:

jahill said:

The police had the paint analysed to figure out both the manufacturer and year of the car and put a team together to find him.

I can't see how it would help that much without some other evidence (e.g, a partial registration number).
While it will obviously narrow the field, it could still leave hundreds, even thousands, of potential suspects.
Would such a degree of resource be employed over here?

"and year" is US-centric guff, as seen on CSI and the like.

Woo, it's Ford Moondust Silver. How many models has that been used on over how many years? Hundreds of thousands of individual cars, I suspect.

[James TiT]

TooMany2cvs said:

"and year" is US-centric guff, as seen on CSI and the like.

Woo, it's Ford Moondust Silver. How many models has that been used on over how many years? Hundreds of thousands of individual cars, I suspect.

Also methods used by forensics in the UK actually.

[TooMany2cvs]

James TiT said:

TooMany2cvs said:

"and year" is US-centric guff, as seen on CSI and the like.

Woo, it's Ford Moondust Silver. How many models has that been used on over how many years? Hundreds of thousands of individual cars, I suspect.

Also methods used by forensics in the UK actually.

Right, lovely. Do they do that tyre-tread thing too, whereby they take a photo, press a button, and instantly narrow it down to a 2013 BMW 3-series?

[giantdefy]

Just out of interest should you tell your insurance company if you get a foreign fine?

[James TiT]

giantdefy said:

Just out of interest should you tell your insurance company if you get a foreign fine?

No simple answer

[anonymous-user]

mario64 said:

SantaBarbara said:

Rewe said:

Just curious now.......if a UK driver with a UK driving license met the criteria for a ban in Germany because they had been speeding in Germany and needed to drive in Germany during the period that the ban should be in place, what would happen when he/she arrived at the border?

Depends whether they had a UK license or a German license perhaps.

In the UK the DVLA creates a 'shadow license' for foreign drivers who get caught in the UK. When the points on the shadow license are enough to get a ban, the driver is considered banned from driving in the UK. I've no idea if they actually confiscate your physical license. I imagine Germany has a similar system?

No system here, I should have been banned but they don’t add up the points, as far as I know anyway, I’ve had 9 tickets in 2 years up to 117km in a 70km (camera between 70 sign and 100 sign!), this letter told me if I get caught again at 26km over the limit I will receive an auto ban, no points mentioned on any letter.

[S11Steve]

James TiT said:

Also methods used by forensics in the UK actually.

Elliot v Loake, 1982 placed the vehicle at the scene of an accident through forensics - http://www.davidmarq.com/bama/Elliott%20v%20Loake%...

[RDMcG]

Interesting question. Got flashed in a Canadian plated car in a German village in June. Awaiting with interest to see if I get a ticket.

[br d]

I just received one from Germany, one of the three I'm expecting. Paid it straight away but it didn't even arrive until 2 weeks after the final payment date, I presume they know this happens and will allow for it. Unless I get another fine for being late and that arrives after the final date too, could get interesting.

[martinbiz]

cmaguire said:

Exactly, I'm surprised you're even asking about £20.
The admin charges are probably near enough the same.

If they are bothering for 25 Euros it looks like there will be a lot more of this then.

What aomin charges?

[Exige77]

RDMcG said:

Interesting question. Got flashed in a Canadian plated car in a German village in June. Awaiting with interest to see if I get a ticket.

I thought the information exchange was just between EU countries ?

I think you’ll be safe with a Canadian plate.

[RDMcG]

Exige77 said:

I thought the information exchange was just between EU countries ?

I think you’ll be safe with a Canadian plate.

I assume so but you never know. I did once get a fine for a car I picked up at the factory that had the red-edged German temporary plates, so they did track it down; I paid the ticket, no big deal.