140mph convoy on M74
Discussion
The Selfish Gene said:
Why is 140 silly? ......140mph on an open road in good conditions is not only not remotely silly,.....
It's 'silly' because the speed limit whether you agree with it or not is 70mph, and doing 140mph in Scotland where they crack down on speeding is silly, risking your licence and a custodial sentence is by definition also silly. Doing it in a very visible convoy makes it even more silly, allowing the police to get details of the make, model and colour of each car is carelessly silly, getting away with it is lucky!DoubleD said:
The Selfish Gene said:
CooperS said:
Yer bloody loser for wanting drivers to be somewhat considerate when dlcking around on public roads....
140mph is just silly.. I imagine it wont be hard to find them if the police are motivated to do so....
it didn't take long.140mph is just silly.. I imagine it wont be hard to find them if the police are motivated to do so....
Why is 140 silly? Why is it 'dicking around'? Is 139 silly ? 138? Where is your personal line? 71?
Does that change with the fact the cars are a higher spec? or what if the drivers were trained?
Maybe they were racing drivers?
Maybe they were off duty police people?
140mph on an open road in good conditions is not only not remotely silly, its literally not even that fast in those cars. I mean don't get me wrong, it's pushing on, but not dangerous in any way in the sort of cars mentioned.
Soprendo said:
Interesting that they identified the exact models of cars but not the reg details...
My thoughts exactly. Precise details of the cars but no reg plates. I'm picturing some fat sweaty coppers parked up somewhere side on, spitting out their coffee/donuts as the convoy races past, like in the Top Gun buzzing the tower scene.motoroller said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Is that not potentially a custodial in Scotland as well?
So basically it's an appeal to possibly destroy the lives of four individuals, presumbly given the vehicles successful contributing indivduals, for a victimless crime.
I think some folk need to have a good long look at themselves, and then a good hard kick in the vagina.
Successful contributing individuals?So basically it's an appeal to possibly destroy the lives of four individuals, presumbly given the vehicles successful contributing indivduals, for a victimless crime.
I think some folk need to have a good long look at themselves, and then a good hard kick in the vagina.
If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly s
tting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.Prof Prolapse said:
Well it's speculative, but balance of probability says that if you run these cars, in all likelihood you are most likely gainfully employed and thus paying taxes, and so contributing by means of employment and taxation.
If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly stting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.
All crimes are victimless until there's a victim If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly s
tting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.
Prof Prolapse said:
Well it's speculative, but balance of probability says that if you run these cars, in all likelihood you are most likely gainfully employed and thus paying taxes, and so contributing by means of employment and taxation.
If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly stting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.
Ah, so rich people should be permitted to drive at whatever speed they so desire. Rules only apply to the plebs.If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly s
tting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.Wow, that's some speed.
I'm not surprised to see a BM in the convoy as they're proper high performance machines and are driven by people used to the racing car like handling and RWD.
I've got a Sport Executive BM and the salesman went to great lengths to explain how they've used their experence in F1 technology and engineering to provide the ultimate driver experience and performance. He also told me he was happy to sell me a BM as he knew I was already used to driving BMs so he would be able to tell his Sales Manager that I was used to high performance cars if he was asked what steps he'd taken to ensure I could handle such a high performance car. That's what I call customer service, making sure your customer is up to the skills required of the Brand.
But, even in my BM, and having the benefit of having been behind the wheel of several BMs, I don't think I'd drive at that sort of speed.
I'm not surprised to see a BM in the convoy as they're proper high performance machines and are driven by people used to the racing car like handling and RWD.
I've got a Sport Executive BM and the salesman went to great lengths to explain how they've used their experence in F1 technology and engineering to provide the ultimate driver experience and performance. He also told me he was happy to sell me a BM as he knew I was already used to driving BMs so he would be able to tell his Sales Manager that I was used to high performance cars if he was asked what steps he'd taken to ensure I could handle such a high performance car. That's what I call customer service, making sure your customer is up to the skills required of the Brand.
But, even in my BM, and having the benefit of having been behind the wheel of several BMs, I don't think I'd drive at that sort of speed.
The Surveyor said:
The Selfish Gene said:
Why is 140 silly? ......140mph on an open road in good conditions is not only not remotely silly,.....
It's 'silly' because the speed limit whether you agree with it or not is 70mph, and doing 140mph in Scotland where they crack down on speeding is silly, risking your licence and a custodial sentence is by definition also silly. Doing it in a very visible convoy makes it even more silly, allowing the police to get details of the make, model and colour of each car is carelessly silly, getting away with it is lucky!It was a calculated risk, because presumably (and it's an assumption) the sort of people that own cars like that are enthusiasts, and thus probably have some interest in driving and thus are slightly better than the average f
k tard that drives a normal car.I jumped out of a plane recently - my mother thinks that's 'silly'. That's because she doesn't understand how parachutes work, or reserve chutes work or indeed have any interest in doing anything remotely of that ilk.
It isn't 'silly' though. It was a calculated risk based on my skill levels and all the equipment that I have an understanding of.
Hence why I questioned the word silly in that context.
The risking the licence bit, kind of understand where you going with that, but they clearly didn't think they were going to get caught.
Some people like to feel alive in this benign world run my people scared of their own shadows. It isn't silly. It's living free.
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
All crimes are victimless until there's a victim
Unless there's not a victim, in which case it stays victimless. Wordplay is fun isn't it? The fact of the matter is though, regardless of police idioms, there's no moral imperative at work here. It's the classic "malum prohibitum" rather than "malum in se", argument.
I accept the act must be illegal as society needs boundaries and laws to function, but you can kiss the fattest part of my arse if you're going to take a moral highground on this. They hurt no one, and society is highly unlikely to benefit from their prosecution.
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
All crimes are victimless until there's a victim
well yeah, that's kind nail on the head.Unless we are in some terrifying minority report type situation.
Let's stop everyone from doing or thinking anything just in case there is a victim maybe, at some point in the future.
You do know there are many many more victims under 70mph than there are at 140 right?
Integroo said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Well it's speculative, but balance of probability says that if you run these cars, in all likelihood you are most likely gainfully employed and thus paying taxes, and so contributing by means of employment and taxation.
If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly stting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.
Ah, so rich people should be permitted to drive at whatever speed they so desire. Rules only apply to the plebs.If they do end up instead doing porridge, society not only pays for the expense of punishing them for a victimless crime, such contributions will cease.
My point is just that it's unlikely to be in anyone's interest to prosecute them, especially since with the BBC report they will be undoutedly s
tting themselves and unlikely to reoffend. On that road at least.The rules apply to everyone, but wider society can sometimes lose more than others when applying them.
In the absence of any victim, it would seem wise that in such instances to not push too hard for a prosecution.
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