Scratch on colleagues car
Discussion
pavarotti1980 said:
tell them that if they are so confident of it being you deliberately scratching the car then go to the police and report it as criminal damage.
Assuming what is said in the first post is true, then this would be my thoughts on it as well. They can't accuse you of something based on CCTV footage, which requires you to pay for something without showing you the evidence. OP, if you are confident you didn't scratch the car on purpose and certainly didn't walk past it enough to damage the entire length of the car then perhaps it's worth you mentioning police in involvement to the people who spoke to you at work?
I would suggest that if the CCTV footage doesn't show anything definitive, the person who's car it is will be told to claim off their insurance.
Admittedly, it all sounds a bit strange to me.
"I didn't do that, I would remember doing that very clearly. I am always very careful when I get in and out of my car not to scratch or ding the car next to mine."
Personally I would know if a gym bag or anything I was carrying touched another car, let alone scratched it. A gym bag or coat wouldn't leave a deep scratch the full length of the car without someone being a) acutely aware of it and b) doing it intentionally.
Personally I would know if a gym bag or anything I was carrying touched another car, let alone scratched it. A gym bag or coat wouldn't leave a deep scratch the full length of the car without someone being a) acutely aware of it and b) doing it intentionally.
Alex_225 said:
Assuming what is said in the first post is true, then this would be my thoughts on it as well. They can't accuse you of something based on CCTV footage, which requires you to pay for something without showing you the evidence.
OP, if you are confident you didn't scratch the car on purpose and certainly didn't walk past it enough to damage the entire length of the car then perhaps it's worth you mentioning police in involvement to the people who spoke to you at work?
I would suggest that if the CCTV footage doesn't show anything definitive, the person who's car it is will be told to claim off their insurance.
Admittedly, it all sounds a bit strange to me.
Of course taking the OP at face value which to be honest there is nothing to say we shouldnt apart from the the PH cynics.OP, if you are confident you didn't scratch the car on purpose and certainly didn't walk past it enough to damage the entire length of the car then perhaps it's worth you mentioning police in involvement to the people who spoke to you at work?
I would suggest that if the CCTV footage doesn't show anything definitive, the person who's car it is will be told to claim off their insurance.
Admittedly, it all sounds a bit strange to me.
Assuming you genuinely didn’t do anything deliberately then I wouldn’t entertain any further discussion on the matter until 1. You’ve seen the video, 2. you’ve seen photographic evidence of the damage.
Maybe after 1. You can see immediately that it isn’t you (you don’t have a blue coat etc), or maybe it’s clear that the damage can’t have been caused by the person in the video at that time.
Maybe after 1. You can see immediately that it isn’t you (you don’t have a blue coat etc), or maybe it’s clear that the damage can’t have been caused by the person in the video at that time.
Just tell your employer you didnt do it and thats the end of it.
They cant try to fire you over it ( it wont stick at a tribunal ) and the Police wont be interested unless you are clearly visible on video actually scratching the car.
I can believe your employer thinks its any of their business. i'd soon tell them to foxtrot oscar if it was my employer!
They cant try to fire you over it ( it wont stick at a tribunal ) and the Police wont be interested unless you are clearly visible on video actually scratching the car.
I can believe your employer thinks its any of their business. i'd soon tell them to foxtrot oscar if it was my employer!
I'm assuming you work for some back street, tin pot outfit don't you?
Otherwise what the holy f
k are they playing at....
Get yourself some professional union advice, as they're way, way out of line.
Why is it a work issue and not a police issue?
Why is your employer involved?
I'd be staggered if your employer has any interest in the cars parked in their car park, no idea why they would??
https://www.thompsons.law/news/news-archive/theft-...
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.ph...
But I'm no expert, however I sure as st wouldn't be talking to anyone about a criminal matter at work, without some serious professional advice.
Are you seriously going to pay and admit guilt, amazing!
Otherwise what the holy f
k are they playing at....Get yourself some professional union advice, as they're way, way out of line.
Why is it a work issue and not a police issue?
Why is your employer involved?
I'd be staggered if your employer has any interest in the cars parked in their car park, no idea why they would??
https://www.thompsons.law/news/news-archive/theft-...
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.ph...
But I'm no expert, however I sure as s
t wouldn't be talking to anyone about a criminal matter at work, without some serious professional advice.Are you seriously going to pay and admit guilt, amazing!
AllyBassman said:
julian64 said:
Op, you aren't giving the appropriate relies for someone who is innocent.
innocent person.
I didn't do this, how dare they. Let me see the video or else.
Guilty Person
I may have done this but have a shocking memory. I've already called my insurance company to see if they'll cover it.
You sound much more like number two. You need to have a careful think how to mitigate this if you did it, and if you didn't stop acting in an equivocal manner
This!innocent person.
I didn't do this, how dare they. Let me see the video or else.
Guilty Person
I may have done this but have a shocking memory. I've already called my insurance company to see if they'll cover it.
You sound much more like number two. You need to have a careful think how to mitigate this if you did it, and if you didn't stop acting in an equivocal manner
If you're innocent, start acting like it.
k off. I would not be considering ways of paying for it just in case.Car-Matt said:
Just tell your employer you didnt do it and thats the end of it.
They cant try to fire you over it ( it wont stick at a tribunal ) and the Police wont be interested unless you are clearly visible on video actually scratching the car.
I can believe your employer thinks its any of their business. i'd soon tell them to foxtrot oscar if it was my employer!
If the employer follows the correct process, then it will stick at a tribunal, as that is what they rule on and nothing else. You should avoid giving duff advice. They cant try to fire you over it ( it wont stick at a tribunal ) and the Police wont be interested unless you are clearly visible on video actually scratching the car.
I can believe your employer thinks its any of their business. i'd soon tell them to foxtrot oscar if it was my employer!
The employer can take him down the disciplinary route and decide on the correct level of punishment if found “guilty”.
Durzel said:
"I didn't do that, I would remember doing that very clearly. I am always very careful when I get in and out of my car not to scratch or ding the car next to mine."
Personally I would know if a gym bag or anything I was carrying touched another car, let alone scratched it. A gym bag or coat wouldn't leave a deep scratch the full length of the car without someone being a) acutely aware of it and b) doing it intentionally.
Agree.Personally I would know if a gym bag or anything I was carrying touched another car, let alone scratched it. A gym bag or coat wouldn't leave a deep scratch the full length of the car without someone being a) acutely aware of it and b) doing it intentionally.
Too much explaining of how he simply cold not have caused it to happen.
Guilty.
Send him down.
Next!
graylag said:
Car-Matt said:
Just tell your employer you didnt do it and thats the end of it.
They cant try to fire you over it ( it wont stick at a tribunal ) and the Police wont be interested unless you are clearly visible on video actually scratching the car.
I can believe your employer thinks its any of their business. i'd soon tell them to foxtrot oscar if it was my employer!
If the employer follows the correct process, then it will stick at a tribunal, as that is what they rule on and nothing else. You should avoid giving duff advice. They cant try to fire you over it ( it wont stick at a tribunal ) and the Police wont be interested unless you are clearly visible on video actually scratching the car.
I can believe your employer thinks its any of their business. i'd soon tell them to foxtrot oscar if it was my employer!
The employer can take him down the disciplinary route and decide on the correct level of punishment if found “guilty”.
No evidence to speak of
Car-Matt said:
Having chaired many tribunals I’d say it wouldn’t stick at one of mine.
No evidence to speak of
Then you don’t understand the remit of your position. You have no recourse over the details, just over agreed legal and company procedure and compliance with it. No evidence to speak of
That’s it really. You can go all Nancy Drew but that holds no sway.
Aiminghigh123 said:
Now a colleague of mine claimed someone scratch his BMW (I think it’s an m3 or m5) on the rear wing, door
Thanks
You're posting on a motoring website and cant tell the difference between two iconic M cars??Thanks
I call Birds/Ambrosia/SainsburysMadagascanVanilla/Aldisomething
Cheers
Aiminghigh123 said:
. There is a chance I did walk past his car and catch with a bag/coat, but the whole length of the car seems strange with no photo evidence of the scratches provided how much damage can a bag coat do?
In summary then, you may have scratched the car.You've played down the make/ model thing because you are trying to make out you paid no attention to the car (99% of PH'ers would know the difference between an M3 and an M5).
You are asking what you should do because the video evidence is inconclusive but you are rather cagey about what may have happened ...
Something not quite right here imo.
Insufficient evidence for any criminal charges but a bit wiffy nevertheless ...
pavarotti1980 said:
Of course taking the OP at face value which to be honest there is nothing to say we shouldnt apart from the the PH cynics.
You must be well upset.Another story about a cars park to get you all excited, but this time there is no private parking company for you to get all worked up and irate about.
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