Wife has been done for 50 in a 30....

Wife has been done for 50 in a 30....

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wc98

10,576 posts

142 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Red 4 said:
Well, it's a fair point - but do you think Pistonheads is the best place for the answers ?



Edited by Red 4 on Friday 14th December 16:07
to be fair, given the excellent input on such matters from agt law, it usually is.

Pothole

34,367 posts

284 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Chr1sch said:
...i would like to at least get a sense of whether im looking at footing a bill for 100's or 1000's....one has to budget you know.
OK, there's my answer. Good luck.

Red 4

10,744 posts

189 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Chr1sch said:
Gents I wasn't asking for legal advice, or someone to sign in blood as to the final bill. However, as a website full of 1000's of petrolheads, who lets face it, mostly probably enjoy a spirited drive, are statistically quite likely to have been caught at some point.

Sadly I am not a multi millionaire and i would like to at least get a sense of whether im looking at footing a bill for 100's or 1000's....one has to budget you know.
Here you go then;

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-m...

Took all of 30 seconds.

HTH.

TorqueVR

1,846 posts

201 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Chr1sch said:
Hi all,

I've really no idea what to expect having never been caught and fined myself (some irony in that tbh).... I would welcome opinions....
I'd anticipate foot stamping and the sulks.

watchnut

1,170 posts

131 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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hey fellers lets cool it a bit,

I suspect OP was asking what others might have had as punishment for a similar offence.

All magistrates are different, but they have a clerk at court who "helps" them with legal matters, they then decide within the guidelines what they wish to do.

I hope OP does enlighten us once all over I am curious

cheers it's Gin o'clock in 7 minutes !

agtlaw

6,775 posts

208 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Assuming a clean licence and an early guilty plea with some reasonable offence and personal mitigation then the most likely outcome in your case:

- 6 points
- Potential fine of £1000, but the actual fine imposed will be commensurate with declared income and the stage at which a guilty plea is entered; see below.
- Prosecution costs £85
- Surcharge imposed at 10% of the fine. (Minimum £30. Maximum £100)

Assuming over £120 pw then your wife’s net weekly income is N. If N exceeds 1000 then N=1000. Following a guilty plea at the earliest opportunity, the most likely fine is N and the sentencing range is 5N/6 to 7N/6. However, whatever the offender’s income, it is unusual to impose a fine in excess of 75% of the maximum. If the court does not have any income data then N is assumed to be 440.





Aiminghigh123

2,724 posts

71 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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I got done doing 53 in a 30 through temporary road works at 1am. £600 fine and 6 points. I managed to pay it off in installments over a period of 6 months.

Chr1sch

Original Poster:

2,585 posts

195 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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watchnut said:
cheers it's Gin o'clock in 7 minutes !
Amen to that....

Chr1sch

Original Poster:

2,585 posts

195 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Aiminghigh123 said:
I got done doing 53 in a 30 through temporary road works at 1am. £600 fine and 6 points. I managed to pay it off in installments over a period of 6 months.
Thank you, much appreciated

Red 4

10,744 posts

189 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Chr1sch said:
Aiminghigh123 said:
I got done doing 53 in a 30 through temporary road works at 1am. £600 fine and 6 points. I managed to pay it off in installments over a period of 6 months.
Thank you, much appreciated
With respect to aiminhghigh for his input - those circumstances are different to your wife's.

There's a link to the sentencing guidelines above and agt knows his stuff.
He is a specialist motoring lawyer and his is the best answer you will get on here.


Chr1sch

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2,585 posts

195 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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agtlaw said:
Assuming a clean licence and an early guilty plea with some reasonable offence and personal mitigation then the most likely outcome in your case:

- 6 points
- Potential fine of £1000, but the actual fine imposed will be commensurate with declared income and the stage at which a guilty plea is entered; see below.
- Prosecution costs £85
- Surcharge imposed at 10% of the fine. (Minimum £30. Maximum £100)

Assuming over £120 pw then your wife’s net weekly income is N. If N exceeds 1000 then N=1000. Following a guilty plea at the earliest opportunity, the most likely fine is N and the sentencing range is 5N/6 to 7N/6. However, whatever the offender’s income, it is unusual to impose a fine in excess of 75% of the maximum. If the court does not have any income data then N is assumed to be 440.
I’ve just digested this properly, many thanks for taking the time to share!

QuadCamCapri

263 posts

153 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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I got stopped doing 51 in a 30 it was 4.50 in the morning (if that makes any difference) the copper with the speed gun just said I would receive a court summons in the post.
So was hugely relieved to get a letter about 10 weeks later, for 3 points and a £100 fine.

av185

18,698 posts

129 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Blimey 4.50 in the morning.

A bit keen.

QuadCamCapri

263 posts

153 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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av185 said:
Blimey 4.50 in the morning.

A bit keen.
Just the morning race to the airport for the many 1000's of shift workers at Heathrow, which I guess the police are wise to !

Still learnt my lesson and reined it in a bit now.

oyster

12,683 posts

250 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Graveworm said:
Pothole said:
Graveworm said:
I was saying the opposite. In the same way bus lanes have pretty much become for buses, taxis, cycles and the well off.
Huh?
If you are willing to pay (Or get your secretary to pay) £35-65 a pop, you can drive with aplomb down bus lanes since they became subject to PCNs. On my old commute, I would watch the same group of cars do exactly that every morning.


Edited by Graveworm on Thursday 13th December 19:39
How many vehicles are doing this?
Hardly hundreds is it?

Graveworm

8,526 posts

73 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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oyster said:
How many vehicles are doing this?
Hardly hundreds is it?
I don't know, I doubt it/really hope not.