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streaky said:
I suggest this ranks as one of the more stupid things you have ever posted gone!
Streaky
>> Edited by streaky on Saturday 28th May 20:57
It was to illustrate the stupid comment you made about why it took so f
g long to get there! I took you to be a little more tactically aware than maybe you are!
I don't expect MOPs to be aware of tactics. That is why I bother to post on this site where I can so that myths are dispelled and explained into reality rather than allowed to gather the moss you place on your rolling stone!
gone said:
I suggest this ranks as one of the more stupid things you have ever posted gone!
Streaky
It was to illustrate the stupid comment you made about why it took so f
Sir, if you would read my original posting with a little more care, you will see that this was not my "stupid comment", but was that of the neighbour (the allegation of stupidity, notwithstanding) - "The neighbour went to meet the two officers with ... a question as to what took them so f
king long." ... hence my response. Indeed, your original reply clearly indicated that you did appreciate that the authorship was not mine - you asked: "Was the person who called aware of Police tactics in relation to this type of incident?". This awareness and your selective editing serves only to make your reply quoted above both baseless and tawdry. In addition, it smacks of attempting to alter the facts to suit the excuse when called to account. Now, where have we seen that technique before?
I do hope that in your daily job you pay greater attention to the content of witness statements and the presentation of evidence than you have illustrated here.
Streaky
[Who is not normally given to attacking individual posters, but will defend against false accusations. And who does know a few things about police tactics (from the light side)
.] >> Edited by streaky on Sunday 29th May 18:34
hmmm 
Can't comment on your post as to why officers did not attend the burglary in progress within a short time as I wasn't a part of it. However, I must agree with gone on this one, that is very very rare.
Yes, there are very frustrating instances whereby officers cannot attend those jobs graded 'prompt' or 'routine' but 'immediates' have to be attended as soon as practicable. If there are no local cars available, then another district car is used, if no other district cars are available, then traffic is used, if no traffic then any officer and his/her dog is obtained from somewhere.
On a couple of occasions I have attended a job just on wiltshire's patch, and they have helped us out when we have been flat out.
With respect to the initial subject matter....yes, on many occasions I have attended burglaries, thefts, ramraids etc without using sirens etc. And yes, that system works. There is no point telling the thieves that you are on your way.
I tell the control room when I have been flashed, give my collar number and vehicle index. Maybe our force has a different policy to gone's. There is a unit that deals with the tickets that arrive on our doormat, the incident we are attending is tagged with 'gatso', including my number, and index. That makes it easier for the clerk to search on the storm database within seconds to ascertain why that ticket was issued.
A lot of our younger officers are basic a to b drivers. This means they do not travel over the speed limit, at ANY time. Not authorised to use emergency equipment, so therefore cannot attend any incident quickly. The 'standard' or response drivers are tested to a high standard, and have a four week course with rigorous testing all through it, and final test at the end. It is at their discretion whether or not they use their emergency equipment when responding, and their discretion as to whether or not they exceed the limit.
If they have, and receive a complaint, it is upheld then they get 'stuck on' just the same as anyone can do. One of the officers on my shift has just been suspended from driving as he was deemed to be in the wrong.....that's another response driver off the road.
It's a thin line, and as with everything common sense prevails.
Can't comment on your post as to why officers did not attend the burglary in progress within a short time as I wasn't a part of it. However, I must agree with gone on this one, that is very very rare.
Yes, there are very frustrating instances whereby officers cannot attend those jobs graded 'prompt' or 'routine' but 'immediates' have to be attended as soon as practicable. If there are no local cars available, then another district car is used, if no other district cars are available, then traffic is used, if no traffic then any officer and his/her dog is obtained from somewhere.
On a couple of occasions I have attended a job just on wiltshire's patch, and they have helped us out when we have been flat out.
With respect to the initial subject matter....yes, on many occasions I have attended burglaries, thefts, ramraids etc without using sirens etc. And yes, that system works. There is no point telling the thieves that you are on your way.
I tell the control room when I have been flashed, give my collar number and vehicle index. Maybe our force has a different policy to gone's. There is a unit that deals with the tickets that arrive on our doormat, the incident we are attending is tagged with 'gatso', including my number, and index. That makes it easier for the clerk to search on the storm database within seconds to ascertain why that ticket was issued.
A lot of our younger officers are basic a to b drivers. This means they do not travel over the speed limit, at ANY time. Not authorised to use emergency equipment, so therefore cannot attend any incident quickly. The 'standard' or response drivers are tested to a high standard, and have a four week course with rigorous testing all through it, and final test at the end. It is at their discretion whether or not they use their emergency equipment when responding, and their discretion as to whether or not they exceed the limit.
If they have, and receive a complaint, it is upheld then they get 'stuck on' just the same as anyone can do. One of the officers on my shift has just been suspended from driving as he was deemed to be in the wrong.....that's another response driver off the road.
It's a thin line, and as with everything common sense prevails.
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