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vonhosen

40,299 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Mad Moggie said:

vonhosen said:

I promise you I am not "streetcop" & I do not/never have worked for a SCP.


Um - but you appear to know who we are talking about


What, I've just read the name on here !!!!

streaky

19,311 posts

251 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Hollywood Wheels said:
This would be a VERY boring site if we all just sat here at our computers agreeing with each other, ...
I disagree - Streaky

omegac

358 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Boosted Ls1 said:
You seem to know a lot about him


Do I?

Boosted Ls1 said:
what do you think his interests are.


Well, don't quote me on this, but judging by his posts on various forums, I'd guess at advanced driving, but as I say, don't quote me

Boosted Ls1 said:
What about your position, you could have been more helpful?


What on earth are you talking about, my position and being more helpful?

TOPTON

1,514 posts

238 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Can there be 2. 'vonhosen' on this site said:

I've already said, I am not involved with SCPs, I am not a trafpol, I am not invloved in the goverenment or it's policy formation. This is a debate I am not new to, I have never posted here previously & whilst I've looked through a few threads I am not aware of past discussions (though I have a good idea that anyone supporting my views would be in a minority here.)Any views I express are totally my own, I am not representing my family, friends, colleague's or anyone else. My views should be taken in that spirit.


Found on a different forum from poster & forum anmin called vonhosen, same disclaimer on profile. Surely can't be the same as PH one as he says he is not trafpol.



When it comes to work I am tasked by the public to respond quickly & safely to their needs & at times that requires that I use an exemption they have afforded me. An exemption to speed but not an exemption of my duty of care to carry that out safely. An exemption I will only use when the circumstances call for it & not as a matter of course in my Police driving.
As a Police officer they can also require that I carry a firerarm, CS gas & truncheon etc. All things that you can't legally, just like you can't speed legally.
What is expected of a Police officer (or other emergency services) in their driving is not what is expected of the public.

MrsMiggins

2,821 posts

237 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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FFS leave the guy alone! If I was subjected to this level of scrutiny when I joined I wouldn't have stuck around.

Internet fora are by their nature anonymous. If PetrolTed wants to insist that people declare who they are and why they hold the views they do then fair enough, it's his site and he makes the rules. Until that happens no-one has the right to badger anyone here to 'declare an interest', give their occupation, place or work, inside leg measurement or anything else any other member wants to know.

If you don't want to debate with him then don't.

vh, I for one hope you stick around.

GreenV8S

30,259 posts

286 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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So it may be that he is a police officer or a member of a security force of some sort, that doesn't mean he is a traffic officer. There's no indication anywhere that he is here representing any public body or company. I can understand people being curious about his job but I don't see that he has any obligation to make it public, any more than you or I do. He's perfectly entitled to hold personal opinions and that seems to be what he is expressing here. Personally I think this whole thread is bad form, and it is wrong to put Vonhosen forward for personal criticism just because he has unpopular views and is willing to stand by them.

apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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I think this is showing PH in a very bad light.

tvrgit

8,472 posts

254 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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I agree with MrsM, GV8S and apache.

Whoever he is, and whether we agree with his views or not, this thread almost amounts to the mentality of 200 years ago that saw daft old dearies burned or drowned just because they didn't agree with the way everybody else lived.

I am surprised that Van Helsing hasn't turned up yet with a stake and a big hammer, and 100 villagers with burning torches.

Very poor form for a forum that is supposed to be trying to maintain standards.

turbobloke

104,392 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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apache said:
I think this is showing PH in a very bad light.
To a degree yes, but PHers are entitled to ask just as vh is entitled to maintain a a dignified silence on any issue he(/she? but don't think so) does not wish to disclose. Normal nosey behaviour isn't a criminal offence, yet, even on PH

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

232 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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MrsMiggins said:
no-one has the right to badger anyone here to 'declare an interest', give their occupation, place or work, inside leg measurement or anything else any other member wants to know.

If you don't want to debate with him then don't.




HW

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Vonhosen does his thing and PH'ers do their thing...
He is not in this world to live up to PH'ers expectations...
And PH'ers are not in this world to live up to his...
Vonhosen is Vonhosen and PH is PH...
and if by chance they find each other....

its beautiful.......

Ease off guys he, bar far, isn't the worst.

dvd

eccles

13,748 posts

224 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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safespeed said:
Vonhosen looks to me like a troll AND a sock puppet. I really don't know why you guys are bothering.

"seems fair but smells foul"


you accuse someone, but provide no backup or proof.......looks like the camera partnerships tactics are catching!

turbobloke

104,392 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Vonhosen does his thing and PH'ers do their thing...
He is not in this world to live up to PH'ers expectations...
And PH'ers are not in this world to live up to his...
Vonhosen is Vonhosen and PH is PH...
and if by chance they find each other....

its beautiful.......
dvd

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

260 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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www.traffic-answers.com/forum/

www.traffic-answers.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=887

Was the global modorator of this site, looks like if it is the same person, then still is.

Hi Von!!!

Name: vonhosen
Posts: 3564 (9.069 per day)
Position: Global Moderator
Date Registered: February 11, 2005, 10:59:47 PM


Always found this person to be very helpfull on that paticular site, gave me some good advice last year. The site did seem to have more BIB on there/moderating the forums that Pistonheads.

Mr F

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

279 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Can't be the same guy:

that other vonhosen said:
Drive within the limit of your abilities to maintain this , don't try to drive to somebody else's limits.


This was in response to a post about an article on PistonHeads, and didn't "our" vonhosen state he was new to this forum?



I love a good mystery!

>> Edited by victormeldrew on Sunday 12th March 18:07

vonhosen

40,299 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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TOPTON said:
Can there be 2. 'vonhosen' on this site said:

I've already said, I am not involved with SCPs, I am not a trafpol, I am not invloved in the goverenment or it's policy formation. This is a debate I am not new to, I have never posted here previously & whilst I've looked through a few threads I am not aware of past discussions (though I have a good idea that anyone supporting my views would be in a minority here.)Any views I express are totally my own, I am not representing my family, friends, colleague's or anyone else. My views should be taken in that spirit.


Found on a different forum from poster & forum anmin called vonhosen, same disclaimer on profile. Surely can't be the same as PH one as he says he is not trafpol.



When it comes to work I am tasked by the public to respond quickly & safely to their needs & at times that requires that I use an exemption they have afforded me. An exemption to speed but not an exemption of my duty of care to carry that out safely. An exemption I will only use when the circumstances call for it & not as a matter of course in my Police driving.
As a Police officer they can also require that I carry a firerarm, CS gas & truncheon etc. All things that you can't legally, just like you can't speed legally.
What is expected of a Police officer (or other emergency services) in their driving is not what is expected of the public.



Where is the bold does it say anything about being trafpol ????

Are you making any valid point in this post, because if you are it's lost on me.
I repeat I am not & never have been trafpol or involved with any SCP.

Boosted Ls1

21,190 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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I just can't help being suspicious of new people who hide behind an air of mystery. Most of us on here know who we all are and what we are about and nothings really held back. So, I reserve my right to remain sceptical until I see a bit more revelation

Boosted.

vonhosen

40,299 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Boosted Ls1 said:
I just can't help being suspicious of new people who hide behind an air of mystery. Most of us on here know who we all are and what we are about and nothings really held back. So, I reserve my right to remain sceptical until I see a bit more revelation

Boosted.


If you seek you shall find

Boosted Ls1

21,190 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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vonhosen said:
Boosted Ls1 said:
I just can't help being suspicious of new people who hide behind an air of mystery. Most of us on here know who we all are and what we are about and nothings really held back. So, I reserve my right to remain sceptical until I see a bit more revelation

Boosted.


If you seek you shall find


Thanks but no thanks, I don't have the time or inclination to play games. I'll just wait and see what pans out.

Boosted.

safespeed

Original Poster:

2,983 posts

276 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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eccles said:
safespeed said:
Vonhosen looks to me like a troll AND a sock puppet. I really don't know why you guys are bothering.

"seems fair but smells foul"


you accuse someone, but provide no backup or proof.......looks like the camera partnerships tactics are catching!


I regret starting this thread and I'd like to apologise to everyone, especially Vonhosen. It seems that I judged too quickly and got it wrong.

Anyway. Sorry everyone. Sorry Vonhosen.
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