RE: 7 Years Jail For Texting Drivers Who Kill

RE: 7 Years Jail For Texting Drivers Who Kill

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Scraggles

7,619 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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sat nav adjustment gets done at the side or off the road

phones turned off as a matter of course, not need them and not want to be contacted whilst driving

not as if there has not been enough publicity about it ?

derestrictor

18,764 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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MilnerR said:
...vote chasing, hand-wringing nonsense.
In a nutshell.

Neomagic

386 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Just another nanny state type bogus rule, I’m so sick of reading and hearing this bullst.

What pisses me off more are the people that swallow everything the government say and then go preaching it without a seconds thought for themselves, they just adopt it and then it becomes the consensus.

Give me a break FFS!

Soon martial law will be in place I swear it!

Richard C

1,685 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Neomagic said:
Just another nanny state type bogus rule, I’m so sick of reading and hearing this bullst.

What pisses me off more are the people that swallow everything the government say and then go preaching it without a seconds thought for themselves, they just adopt it and then it becomes the consensus.

Give me a break FFS!

Soon martial law will be in place I swear it!
yep. theres plenty of that ilk on this forum, even this thread.

dcb

5,845 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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derestrictor said:
MilnerR said:
...vote chasing, hand-wringing nonsense.
In a nutshell.
With the prisons full to overflowing, making
all sort of wild claims they can't possibly deliver
on makes them look like a bunch of liars advertising executives.

It's a basic rule of any stable western society that
there must *always* be enough space in the prison
system for the courts to send as many folks as they
like for as long as they like.

Otherwise, full prisons give the green light to all
sorts of riff-raff to do what they like when they like.

It would also help if the prison system was a deterrent.

I know more than a few people that prefer prison
to their home life.

Three good meals a day, all the TV you can eat, nice
warm cell, loads of mates and frequent visits from
lovely middle class social services types make it all
worthwhile.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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That's a crap poem...

henrycrun

2,456 posts

242 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Just turn the phone OFF - how hard is that ?

lookout

98 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Just looking at how the CPS has put cases forward and how section 1 cases have been judged and sentenced over the last few years, makes this 'news' scary.

Currently these type of offences are judged by persons that quite often have no knowledge about technical matters, driving skills and vehicle dynamics. Quite a few cases have been judged purely on speed. So much that in 1 Scottish court a man was sentenced to 4.5 year in prison because of killing a drunken woman crossing the road at 3AM in the morning while driving at 32 mph. The same person judged that a man driving at 29 mph, hitting and killing a pedestrian crossing the road during the day was not guilty. I know one can not compare cases, but I am trying to highlight that instead of increasing sentences, it would be better to have judges trained on vehicle and traffic dynamics to allow them to make informed judgments, rather than just listening to populist 'safety messages' like speed and mobile phone useage.

Edited by lookout on Wednesday 16th July 19:02

xyyman

1,075 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Interesting, i'm wondering how this can be enforced. In my daily drudge as a pedestrian in London's not so fair city I observe that pedestrians are becoming more suicidal, more motorists than ever are using a mobile while driving, more cyclists are riding through red lights (be they traffic or pedestrian), and less and less physical police presence. Its all a game really, the more the nanny state removes risk from us the more and more we strive to improvise it. What the hell, life's too short, just do your own thing they're going to get you one way or the other.

Cold Fusion

111 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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It should be 6 months in prison for talking on the phone while driving.

tom2019

770 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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what do you get for killing someone while drunk ?

Aiten

540 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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jazzyjeff said:
I get vertigo watching people driving in a movie and not paying attention to the road(and they aren't really driving)!

JJ
Thank god I am not the only one. It makes my stomach uneasy when I see it on TV ... and its bloody acting behind a blue screen!!!!

Ed.

2,174 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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I am guessing its to fill in for CPS incompetence, as discussed having an accident fatality or not already comes under careless or dangerous driving. Scribing all these new laws makes elected rulers look busy, keeps civil service typists fumbling and negates the need to train good judgement into officers. IMHOwink

Millionair

77 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Cold Fusion said:
It should be 6 months in prison for talking on the phone while driving.
yes

Millionair

77 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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tom2019 said:
what do you get for killing someone while drunk ?
20 years, and you serve all of them

Finlandia

7,803 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Millionair said:
Cold Fusion said:
It should be 6 months in prison for talking on the phone while driving.
yes
How about using said mobile, as an mp3/music player connected to your car stereo?

hothaul

7 posts

201 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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What about the idiots going round stabbing people,they get less time in jail,seems strange to me,just another anti car policy,dont get me wrong i am not for txt ing while driving,but the motorist is the priority over stabbing,The goverment are a load of blind aholes.GET RID.

Millionair

77 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Finlandia said:
Millionair said:
Cold Fusion said:
It should be 6 months in prison for talking on the phone while driving.
yes
How about using said mobile, as an mp3/music player connected to your car stereo?
that's ok, as long as you don't display careless driving due to using it. It's the act of holding it and having a conversation that's the problem

SS2.

14,485 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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tom2019 said:
what do you get for killing someone while drunk ?
IIRC, causing death by careless driving whilst under the influence of drink or drugs used to be a maximum of 10 years imprisonment but this was increased to a maximum of 14 years in 2007.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Millionair said:
Finlandia said:
Millionair said:
Cold Fusion said:
It should be 6 months in prison for talking on the phone while driving.
yes
How about using said mobile, as an mp3/music player connected to your car stereo?
that's ok, as long as you don't display careless driving due to using it. It's the act of holding it and having a conversation that's the problem
Actually it's not, it's the "using of mobile whilst driving", in other words holding it in your hand that lands you with a fine.

Now, had it been an ipod you held, that would be fair game.

Brilliant, ain't it?