Newsnight tonight BRAKE & Monbiot v Captain Gatso..?

Newsnight tonight BRAKE & Monbiot v Captain Gatso..?

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otolith

56,637 posts

206 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Monbiot's position is so transparently ideological rather than pragmatic - what a .

streaky

19,311 posts

251 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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I can't wait for the odious little prat to get his comeuppance. Someday, someone will tell him live on air to shut his uninformed mouth and to go forth and multiply - Streaky

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Realistically it doesn't matter who says what. Anyone stupid enough to believe that sticking to a speed limit equates to safety and/or a reduction in collisions is just awaiting the right time to prove Darwin correct.

rs1952

5,247 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Jasandjules said:
Realistically it doesn't matter who says what. Anyone stupid enough to believe that sticking to a speed limit equates to safety and/or a reduction in collisions is just awaiting the right time to prove Darwin correct.
Realistically it doesn't matter who says what because of the economics of the situation. The days of many SCPs are numbered, no matter who gets interviewed on TV and/ or how well or badly they came over.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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streaky said:
I can't wait for the odious little prat to get his comeuppance. Someday, someone will tell him live on air to shut his uninformed mouth and to go forth and multiply - Streaky
The smug tosser leads a charmed life...

Moonbat's website said:
During seven years of investigative journeys in Indonesia, Brazil and East Africa, he was shot at, beaten up by military police, shipwrecked and stung into a poisoned coma by hornets. He came back to work in Britain after being pronounced clinically dead in Lodwar General Hospital in north-western Kenya, having contracted cerebral malaria.

In Britain, he joined the roads protest movement. He was hospitalised by security guards, who drove a metal spike through his foot, smashing the middle bone.
On the plus side, he can't hold out forever...

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

198 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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How are the hornets...?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Happy...

rs1952

5,247 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Moonbat's website said:
having contracted cerebral malaria.
That, and the damned flies that gave him it, might explain a lot rolleyes

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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carinaman said:
Monbiot repeated his bit about speeding being a middle calss, tory offence that's deemed OK.
He's clearly not been to the council estates in my neck o' the woods...

rs1952

5,247 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
carinaman said:
Monbiot repeated his bit about speeding being a middle calss, tory offence that's deemed OK.
He's clearly not been to the council estates in my neck o' the woods...
rofl

Just keep of the subject of the EU, and we can agree with each other wink

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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pitmansboots said:
Mr. Gianassi spoke for the law enforcement agencies.
On the subject of qualifications, there was 2 of the 3 spokespersons there last night that have no qualifications to speak on road safety by speed enforcement matters and just to give you a clue one of the 2 was not Mr. Gianassi.
One of the spokespersons spoke reasonably and one repeated 10-year old soundbytes she doesn't understand in the first place. I don't think you shoudld be trumpeting a victory at all as the anti-camera voice was not well represented in that interview at all.
Nice try, must try harder, better still get someone else.
Almost by definition, someone having "qualifications to speak on road safety by speed enforcement" will be part of the road safety industry, and so you could argue that they would be hardly likely to be an impartial expert, would they?

Boosted LS1

21,190 posts

262 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Isn't pitsmansboots steve callaghan? So he's part of the industry anyway.

Paul Dishman

4,729 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Boosted LS1 said:
Isn't pitsmansboots steve callaghan? So he's part of the industry anyway.
Is he?
He ought to be considering next career move

shout the P45's in the post

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Boosted LS1 said:
Isn't pitsmansboots steve callaghan? So he's part of the industry anyway.
I believe (certainly judging by his rather strange view point) that he works for an SCP or somesuch, as I don't think many people of the intellect he appears to exhibit actually hold the views he espouses.

The real Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Jasandjules said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Isn't pitsmansboots steve callaghan? So he's part of the industry anyway.
I believe (certainly judging by his rather strange view point) that he works for an SCP or somesuch, as I don't think many people of the intellect he appears to exhibit actually hold the views he espouses.
not for much longer hehe

Stubby Pete

2,488 posts

248 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Only just watched the programme on iPlayer, that smug git needs to learn some respect for his peers (for peers read betters). A debate isn't about interrupting the opposition and not letting them say their piece, it's about reasoned argument.

Did he learn his debate skills from the ex deputy PM Prescott? It was like watching a spoilt child arguing their mother about wanting ice cream! I half expected him to start stamping his feet.

What a ccensoredk!!

Boosted LS1

21,190 posts

262 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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I thought Captain Gatso would have been on. I'm sure he'd have put that smug git in his place. Claire did very well and kept her cool under pressure but was shouted down quite a lot by the rude bd. Also aren't there some FOI figures due out sometime?

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Stubby Pete said:
Only just watched the programme on iPlayer, that smug git needs to learn some respect for his peers (for peers read betters). A debate isn't about interrupting the opposition and not letting them say their piece, it's about reasoned argument.
If one has no legitimate argument to make to rebut the assertions of your opposition, then one is forced to prevent the opposition from putting forth their arguments.... That is how I read his actions.

Stubby Pete

2,488 posts

248 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Jasandjules said:
Stubby Pete said:
Only just watched the programme on iPlayer, that smug git needs to learn some respect for his peers (for peers read betters). A debate isn't about interrupting the opposition and not letting them say their piece, it's about reasoned argument.
If one has no legitimate argument to make to rebut the assertions of your opposition, then one is forced to prevent the opposition from putting forth their arguments.... That is how I read his actions.
That's pretty much what I meant but with slightly less eloquence!

carinaman

21,395 posts

174 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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I guess the Guardian doesn't mind having him writing for them as he's like a left wing equivalent of Clarkson?

Edited by carinaman on Sunday 22 August 20:44