Issued COVID FPN by a police officer
Discussion
OllieJolly said:
For a start, the whole "I'm a key worker", "going to my job as a key worker", "blah blah key worker" thing since this all started has been getting on my nerves
I called someone out on it day one in all this b
ks. You can almost certainly guarantee that "[something something something] Key Worker" means "I'm in social care". Nobody of any use in the NHS, or in the Police, or in the fire service wanders up and declares loudly "I have to do this, I'm a [policemanofficer]/[firemanofficer]/[neurosurgeon]". It's a lever they use to suddenly feel they are in some way elevated against their neighbours and social circles. Ironically, the same social circles and neighbours who didn't give a st what they did and hadn't placed them "below" them in the first place.Let's face it, the world would stop if any of a number of groups of workers disappeared overnight. If IT people up and walked out, the world would stop. If the police up and walked out, the world would stop. If the doctors, nurses, lorry drivers, shelf stackers, cashiers, bank tellers, chocolatiers, chefs, cooks, pot washers, bin men, dog wardens, parking attendants... any of them walked out, the world would change drastically.
Greendubber said:
I know I'm being abrasive, I've just reached saturation point with this whole situation and had an absolute f%cking titfull of it.
I think we're all fed up of it, but some are finally starting to explain that "the police" haven't chosen to go out slapping fines on people and instead "the police" have been told to go out and do it. Some of "the police" have the nouse to just fk it off and dish out "words of advice", and some of "the police" are bullied little fktrumpets who suddenly have some power and shouldn't be anywhere near civilisation, and are busy embarrassing themselves. Note, this isn't a situation limited to police either 
Pegscratch said:
Greendubber said:
I know I'm being abrasive, I've just reached saturation point with this whole situation and had an absolute f%cking titfull of it.
I think we're all fed up of it, but some are finally starting to explain that "the police" haven't chosen to go out slapping fines on people and instead "the police" have been told to go out and do it. Some of "the police" have the nouse to just fk it off and dish out "words of advice", and some of "the police" are bullied little fktrumpets who suddenly have some power and shouldn't be anywhere near civilisation, and are busy embarrassing themselves. Note, this isn't a situation limited to police either Greendubber said:
If its any reassurance, no one I work with has any interest in dealing with any suspected breaches other than huge illegal gatherings. We drive around all day and see people out and about and no one has the inclination to stop the car and ask them what they're up to. We have enough on our plates already.
I must just get the nobbers or the bored ones then. I guess there was so much fuss at the start of all of this about "how often you could go out for exercise" as well, they see me a couple of times a day and think "we'll have a word".Pegscratch said:
Greendubber said:
If its any reassurance, no one I work with has any interest in dealing with any suspected breaches other than huge illegal gatherings. We drive around all day and see people out and about and no one has the inclination to stop the car and ask them what they're up to. We have enough on our plates already.
I must just get the nobbers or the bored ones then. I guess there was so much fuss at the start of all of this about "how often you could go out for exercise" as well, they see me a couple of times a day and think "we'll have a word".Pegscratch said:
Greendubber said:
If you honestly think that CID, public protection units, investigation teams, firearms, dog handlers, support units and everyone else are out having anything to do with COVID you're on another planet.
I don't, but when three of us with different and unrelated issues that are "non-emergency" and taking months to progress call up to find out why it's taking to so long to progress anything, staff dealing with enforcement of coronavirus restrictions is the excuse given - every time. Now, I can turn around and say "you're talking st, come off it, what's the real excuse" or I can take a "respected officer" at their word and be utterly bemused how this is the only thing the police have time to deal with.Throw in a good number of media reports of overzealous policing and a subjectively disproportionate number of social media users complaining about being dealt with heavy handedly, which one sits better? Calling the plod a liar and ignoring everything else that suggests they're being honest, or accepting them at their word?
The reason your told it's due to Coronavirus is because that's "Official" reason.
Everyone's sick and tired of hearing about the "Real"..........understaffed and underfunded (I know, eye rolls).
I bet the call taker is actually thankful there is an excuse
"What am I going to tell them this time??"
Greendubber said:
As long as its nothing more than a word.
Fortunately they've not pushed the buttons that upset me or tried particularly hard to argue around guidelines and laws when I explained that the guidelines suggested that one was plenty but the law allowed for more for instances like me where it's not feasible for me to burn what I need to in a single sitting, so they've left it as a word. I'm hopeful now that having spoken to five of them I've spoken to all who wish to spend any time on it! 
Nibbles_bits said:
This will sound really snarky........
The reason your told it's due to Coronavirus is because that's "Official" reason.
Everyone's sick and tired of hearing about the "Real"..........understaffed and underfunded (I know, eye rolls).
I bet the call taker is actually thankful there is an excuse
"What am I going to tell them this time??"
That was also my overriding suspicion, as despite the presence of officers at a number of places that suggests the most likely cause of their presence is to "enforce" coronavirus restrictions (or "We've been sent there, so let's park up, have a chat with people and if we find someone taking the piss then I guess we can give them a ticket if they're a knob about it") I am also very aware that even if 10-15 vehicles double crewed showed up to these places it's a fraction of the local force's complement of staff.The reason your told it's due to Coronavirus is because that's "Official" reason.
Everyone's sick and tired of hearing about the "Real"..........understaffed and underfunded (I know, eye rolls).
I bet the call taker is actually thankful there is an excuse
"What am I going to tell them this time??"
Pegscratch said:
OllieJolly said:
For a start, the whole "I'm a key worker", "going to my job as a key worker", "blah blah key worker" thing since this all started has been getting on my nerves
I called someone out on it day one in all this bks. You can almost certainly guarantee that "[something something something] Key Worker" means "I'm in social care". Nobody of any use in the NHS, or in the Police, or in the fire service wanders up and declares loudly "I have to do this, I'm a [policemanofficer]/[firemanofficer]/[neurosurgeon]". It's a lever they use to suddenly feel they are in some way elevated against their neighbours and social circles. Ironically, the same social circles and neighbours who didn't give a st what they did and hadn't placed them "below" them in the first place.Let's face it, the world would stop if any of a number of groups of workers disappeared overnight. If IT people up and walked out, the world would stop. If the police up and walked out, the world would stop. If the doctors, nurses, lorry drivers, shelf stackers, cashiers, bank tellers, chocolatiers, chefs, cooks, pot washers, bin men, dog wardens, parking attendants... any of them walked out, the world would change drastically.
When frontline NHS workers were allowed to skip queues, shop early, offered discount...........you know full well that Audrey, who isn't a Doctor or Nurse, doesn't work with patients and has a small admin office in the basement was definitely strutting around her local supermarket with her NHS lanyard on display!!
Greendubber said:
Pegscratch said:
Greendubber said:
I know I'm being abrasive, I've just reached saturation point with this whole situation and had an absolute f%cking titfull of it.
I think we're all fed up of it, but some are finally starting to explain that "the police" haven't chosen to go out slapping fines on people and instead "the police" have been told to go out and do it. Some of "the police" have the nouse to just fk it off and dish out "words of advice", and some of "the police" are bullied little fktrumpets who suddenly have some power and shouldn't be anywhere near civilisation, and are busy embarrassing themselves. Note, this isn't a situation limited to police either tter for calling Pier Morgan some nasty names (not aimed at you personally).Nibbles_bits said:
I'd hate to throw a fellow public service under the bus.......but
When frontline NHS workers were allowed to skip queues, shop early, offered discount...........you know full well that Audrey, who isn't a Doctor or Nurse, doesn't work with patients and has a small admin office in the basement was definitely strutting around her local supermarket with her NHS lanyard on display!!
That's the issue, I guess. When frontline NHS workers were allowed to skip queues, shop early, offered discount...........you know full well that Audrey, who isn't a Doctor or Nurse, doesn't work with patients and has a small admin office in the basement was definitely strutting around her local supermarket with her NHS lanyard on display!!
Where does it stop?
Police are key workers, no question.
Police need shopping, so home delivery driver/shop workers are key workers.
Those people need services, so any tradesman or tradesman woman, for example, is a key worker.
Trades need insurance, so any insurance worker is a key worker.
Insurance companies need IT, so any IT worker is a key worker.
On it goes. Where does it stop?
Nobody knows.
What a world we live in.
Nibbles_bits said:
I'd hate to throw a fellow public service under the bus.......but
When frontline NHS workers were allowed to skip queues, shop early, offered discount...........you know full well that Audrey, who isn't a Doctor or Nurse, doesn't work with patients and has a small admin office in the basement was definitely strutting around her local supermarket with her NHS lanyard on display!!
Suddenly a few of those IT folks I know in the NHS stopped using belt-attached extendable pass holder things for their NHS passes and suddenly found their NHS lanyards too. I called them out to their face. They went back to their belt-attached holder When frontline NHS workers were allowed to skip queues, shop early, offered discount...........you know full well that Audrey, who isn't a Doctor or Nurse, doesn't work with patients and has a small admin office in the basement was definitely strutting around her local supermarket with her NHS lanyard on display!!
Alucidnation said:
Greendubber said:
If its any reassurance, no one I work with has any interest in dealing with any suspected breaches other than huge illegal gatherings. We drive around all day and see people out and about and no one has the inclination to stop the car and ask them what they're up to. We have enough on our plates already.
Yep, like investigating people on ttter for calling Pier Morgan some nasty names (not aimed at you personally).king real?". Although I have no doubt that the police involved in dealing with that were not impressed that that was what their "public service" amounted to for those days.OllieJolly said:
That's the issue, I guess.
Where does it stop?
Police are key workers, no question.
Police need shopping, so home delivery driver/shop workers are key workers.
Those people need services, so any tradesman or tradesman woman, for example, is a key worker.
Trades need insurance, so any insurance worker is a key worker.
Insurance companies need IT, so any IT worker is a key worker.
On it goes. Where does it stop?
Nobody knows.
What a world we live in.
This Where does it stop?
Police are key workers, no question.
Police need shopping, so home delivery driver/shop workers are key workers.
Those people need services, so any tradesman or tradesman woman, for example, is a key worker.
Trades need insurance, so any insurance worker is a key worker.
Insurance companies need IT, so any IT worker is a key worker.
On it goes. Where does it stop?
Nobody knows.
What a world we live in.
Pegscratch said:
Alucidnation said:
Greendubber said:
If its any reassurance, no one I work with has any interest in dealing with any suspected breaches other than huge illegal gatherings. We drive around all day and see people out and about and no one has the inclination to stop the car and ask them what they're up to. We have enough on our plates already.
Yep, like investigating people on ttter for calling Pier Morgan some nasty names (not aimed at you personally).king real?". Although I have no doubt that the police involved in dealing with that were not impressed that that was what their "public service" amounted to for those days.Greendubber said:
If they hadn't dealt with it there would be been protests and outrage. Grenfell is a political hot potato no one wants a bit of, so 'something' needed to be done to quell the frothers
Can't disagree. Shame that it has to detract from "real jobs". There are of course instances where this plainly cannot be the case, but there surely has to come a point where someone says "the police are not here for if you get offended by something on the internet".Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff