No Mask, No Entry, No Exceptions

[dave_s13]

thewarlock said:

bad company said:

Good, these pointless nonsensical rules need to be ignored. It’s not cannot wear masks, it will not. I count myself among them.

Waiting for the inevitable and irrelevant insults.

What is it about a mask that upsets you so?

Do you think it's doing you harm?

I'm with you bad company.

Being forced to do something you absolutely disagree with causes psychological harm. If it doesn bother you, fair enough, wear one.

If you don't agree with personal choice and personal responsibility in the face of a minusicke threat then you need to stay inside forever. Not the person who chooses not to comply with bad laws.

[CrutyRammers]

thewarlock said:

I didn't answer the question?

No no, you didn't answer the question

I'm not particularly worried about catching it. I'm reasonably young, fit and healthy.

What is it about this particular scenario that makes people think it's just all about themselves, with no regards for anyone else?

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

[ATG]

CrutyRammers said:

thewarlock said:

I didn't answer the question?

No no, you didn't answer the question

I'm not particularly worried about catching it. I'm reasonably young, fit and healthy.

What is it about this particular scenario that makes people think it's just all about themselves, with no regards for anyone else?

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

Because proliferating the infection amongst the young, healthy, low-risk population increases the risk that people who aren't young/healthy/low-risk may get infected and become seriously ill. We can reduce that risk by getting the younger end of the population immunised and by giving more time for the vulnerable who are not yet immunised to get themselves a jab too. A few more weeks of restrictions will make a significant difference to the efficacy of the immunisation programme, and it'll give us a clearer picture of the trajectory of the current outbreak.

[MYOB]

ATG said:

CrutyRammers said:

thewarlock said:

I didn't answer the question?

No no, you didn't answer the question

I'm not particularly worried about catching it. I'm reasonably young, fit and healthy.

What is it about this particular scenario that makes people think it's just all about themselves, with no regards for anyone else?

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

Because proliferating the infection amongst the young, healthy, low-risk population increases the risk that people who aren't young/healthy/low-risk may get infected and become seriously ill. We can reduce that risk by getting the younger end of the population immunised and by giving more time for the vulnerable who are not yet immunised to get themselves a jab too. A few more weeks of restrictions will make a significant difference to the efficacy of the immunisation programme, and it'll give us a clearer picture of the trajectory of the current outbreak.

Still plenty out there naively following the script.

[Lopey]

Where are all these anti maskers? I see them chatting ste here and on other social media, yet I go into town, and everyone is wearing a mask?

I think too many like to lie and argue the toss for their egos but still be secretly compliant with what the government wants them to do.

[DanL]

It’s remarkable how many of the people who don’t want to wear a mask are happy to wear tin foil hats.

Personally - do what you like, I don’t care. But accept that you’re going to be judged by people for it. Going by this thread, that goes both for those who wear masks and those who don’t…

[sevensfun]

DanL said:

It’s remarkable how many of the people who don’t want to wear a mask are happy to wear tin foil hats.

Personally - do what you like, I don’t care. But accept that you’re going to be judged by people for it. Going by this thread, that goes both for those who wear masks and those who don’t…

Snood is a nice compromise - nice and loose one

Covers the shop workers from having to intervene. Is very easy to cover and quicker and does next to nothing just like most of the masks people are wearing

[thewarlock]

CrutyRammers said:

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

Such damaging restrictions as wearing a mask when you go to the supermarket?

[Alucidnation]

sevensfun said:

DanL said:

It’s remarkable how many of the people who don’t want to wear a mask are happy to wear tin foil hats.

Personally - do what you like, I don’t care. But accept that you’re going to be judged by people for it. Going by this thread, that goes both for those who wear masks and those who don’t…

Snood is a nice compromise - nice and loose one

Covers the shop workers from having to intervene. Is very easy to cover and quicker and does next to nothing just like most of the masks people are wearing

I thought you were anti mask?

[thewarlock]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

So which is it? Was I supposed to read what you read? Or interpret what you meant?

Ultimately, you avoided the question, and posted some nonsense. You're able to tell when you're being lied to, and your common sense trumps the medical expert's opinions, and I'm the one that's 'simply stunning'?

Well, thanks.

[nonsequitur]

MYOB said:

Still plenty out there naively following the script.

The vast majority I would say.

[sevensfun]

Alucidnation said:

I thought you were anti mask?

A Face covering is not a mask

[Alucidnation]

sevensfun said:

Alucidnation said:

I thought you were anti mask?

A Face covering is not a mask

Correct, and a face covering was all that was ever required.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-co...

[sevensfun]

Alucidnation said:

Correct, and a face covering was all that was ever required.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-co...

I never said it wasn’t

[CrutyRammers]

ATG said:

CrutyRammers said:

thewarlock said:

I didn't answer the question?

No no, you didn't answer the question

I'm not particularly worried about catching it. I'm reasonably young, fit and healthy.

What is it about this particular scenario that makes people think it's just all about themselves, with no regards for anyone else?

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

Because proliferating the infection amongst the young, healthy, low-risk population increases the risk that people who aren't young/healthy/low-risk may get infected and become seriously ill. We can reduce that risk by getting the younger end of the population immunised and by giving more time for the vulnerable who are not yet immunised to get themselves a jab too. A few more weeks of restrictions will make a significant difference to the efficacy of the immunisation programme, and it'll give us a clearer picture of the trajectory of the current outbreak.

Ah, so you want to chase zero covid. An impossible goal, but lets chase it anyway and even if it means burning down society in order to chase it. Utterly insane.
The vulnerable are vaccinated. Any who aren't at this point, is by their own choice, aside from a tiny number of outliers. Your assertion that it will make a significant difference to efficacy (the only metric for which that counts being the number of people who become seriously ill from covid) is utterly without evidence.

[monthou]

CrutyRammers said:

Ah, so you want to chase zero covid. An impossible goal, but lets chase it anyway and even if it means burning down society in order to chase it. Utterly insane.

Covering your face in the supermarket = burning down society?

[CrutyRammers]

thewarlock said:

CrutyRammers said:

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

Such damaging restrictions as wearing a mask when you go to the supermarket?

As I said before, if you're so comfortable about wearing masks, and worried about not being vaccinated yet, then you can wear one which protects you, can't you. But for some reason you didn't like that idea. I wonder why?

[98elise]

CrutyRammers said:

ATG said:

CrutyRammers said:

thewarlock said:

I didn't answer the question?

No no, you didn't answer the question

I'm not particularly worried about catching it. I'm reasonably young, fit and healthy.

What is it about this particular scenario that makes people think it's just all about themselves, with no regards for anyone else?

That is an epic, and unpleasant, misrepresentation. I am concerned with the wider damage this is doing to society. People such as yourself seem hell bent on trying to paint that as self interest, when in fact it is the opposite.
If you are young and fit and healthy, it poses no risk to you, vaccinated or not. So why would you want to continue with these damaging restrictions?

Because proliferating the infection amongst the young, healthy, low-risk population increases the risk that people who aren't young/healthy/low-risk may get infected and become seriously ill. We can reduce that risk by getting the younger end of the population immunised and by giving more time for the vulnerable who are not yet immunised to get themselves a jab too. A few more weeks of restrictions will make a significant difference to the efficacy of the immunisation programme, and it'll give us a clearer picture of the trajectory of the current outbreak.

Ah, so you want to chase zero covid. An impossible goal, but lets chase it anyway and even if it means burning down society in order to chase it. Utterly insane.
The vulnerable are vaccinated. Any who aren't at this point, is by their own choice, aside from a tiny number of outliers. Your assertion that it will make a significant difference to efficacy (the only metric for which that counts being the number of people who become seriously ill from covid) is utterly without evidence.

It's only the anti-vaxxers/nut jobs that put forward the concept of zero Covid. Both as a projection of what other people think, and then to dismiss it.

[InitialDave]

CrutyRammers said:

burning down society

Hold up, no one told me that was an option.

[thewarlock]

CrutyRammers said:

As I said before, if you're so comfortable about wearing masks, and worried about not being vaccinated yet, then you can wear one which protects you, can't you. But for some reason you didn't like that idea. I wonder why?

Do you understand that masks aren't just about protecting yourself?

Or are you just being obtuse?

What is your issue with wearing masks? Is it a physical thing or a mental thing?