Cyclist who reported Range Rover driver for using his mobile

Cyclist who reported Range Rover driver for using his mobile

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KTMsm

26,973 posts

265 months

Sunday 10th March
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jasonrobertson86 said:
Absolutely. If you're an absolute scumbag/have been dragged up. Hence the penalty for assault is very severe.
What pray tell do you think the penalty is ?

Say if a co worker hits you and tries to glass you because he mistakenly believes you're having an affair with his wife ?

Super Sonic

5,275 posts

56 months

Sunday 10th March
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KTMsm said:
jasonrobertson86 said:
Absolutely. If you're an absolute scumbag/have been dragged up. Hence the penalty for assault is very severe.
What pray tell do you think the penalty is ?

Say if a co worker hits you and tries to glass you because he mistakenly believes you're having an affair with his wife ?
Because that's the same as filming someone using their phone while driving?
ffs.

NikBartlett

608 posts

83 months

Sunday 10th March
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Zero Fuchs said:
NikBartlett said:
That doesn't take into account who he confronts. If he picks the wrong ( or right, looking at some of the comments ) person he could well end up on a gangland list with a price on his head.
He's Cycling Mikey not John Wick.
rofl

M.F.D

714 posts

103 months

Monday 11th March
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heebeegeetee said:
M.F.D said:
Firstly, Volvo driver and passenger are indeed coming across entitled and obviously shouldn't be going on the wrong side.

Last time I checked, only a constable in uniform can stop a vehicle on a roadway. This idiot literally hides behind a hedge and then stops a vehicle on the road. Then it's a cock waving competition to see who backs down first. All the while, the traffic backs up and causes even more congestion. How can anyone think these actions are justified?
I guess in the same way they you're trying to justify driving on the wrong side of the road at a near-blind junction. Certainly Pedestrian Mikey's (see what I did there smile ) behaviour is less extreme than approaching a junction on the wrong side of the road, imo.

Btw, the traffic was already backed up, hence the driving on the wrong side of the road.
Can you please advise which part of my comment I try and justify the actions of the Volvo driver?

KTMsm

26,973 posts

265 months

Monday 11th March
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Super Sonic said:
KTMsm said:
jasonrobertson86 said:
Absolutely. If you're an absolute scumbag/have been dragged up. Hence the penalty for assault is very severe.
What pray tell do you think the penalty is ?

Say if a co worker hits you and tries to glass you because he mistakenly believes you're having an affair with his wife ?
Because that's the same as filming someone using their phone while driving?
ffs.
How stupid are you ? Because that's assault !

I can only give you the examples I have experienced - I was assaulted by a senior manager and his penalty was - bugger all !

I reported it to the police in case it was used against me in some way as I was the junior - the police said it was a internal work matter.

Work said the manager was under stress and would be disciplined but nothing happened

Foss62

1,073 posts

67 months

Monday 11th March
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KTMsm said:
jasonrobertson86 said:
carlo996 said:
Doesn't matter tbh, the fact it 'might' happen and if it does it will be hilarious, is enough for most smile
It will be hilarious if he gets assaulted?
Damn right it would !

Hope someone videos it and posts it up for entertainment in the same way that he does
I don’t get this at all? Surely contributors to PH are generally interested in driving and relatively intolerant of bad drivers (there are plenty of threads about it…)? Most of us rage about poor driving, and I am sure that if we were waiting in the Gandalf Corner queue we would be only too pleased and amused to see CM jump out in front of an idiot. Equally, who hasn’t said to a passenger: ‘’look at him, obviously on the phone, deserves all he’s eventually going to get’’?
So why the hostility to CM from a proportion of the posters here? Sooner or later someone will do the same thing with shoplifters and burglars (maybe it already exists?) obviously the danger level is higher, but will people on here still wish these You Tubers harm? Why?

CoolHands

18,844 posts

197 months

Monday 11th March
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It’s not difficult, most people don’t like tts who try to police their environment like a Walt. Go and join the police if that’s what you want to do. Also most people don’t like sanctimonious tts, and therefore will be happy if he gets lamped

MrTrilby

963 posts

284 months

Monday 11th March
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I suspect that many of the negative comments are from people who are interested in driving and don’t tolerate the bad driving of others. But they get a bit twitchy and arsey if they think there’s a risk that someone might shine the light on their own driving stands.

Hence they’re happy for the tiny number of police to look out for driving standards because they know there’s only a tiny chance they’ll get caught. Introduce a shed load of cameras to enforce standards though and they’ll wail about how unfair it is. If heaven forbid the government were actually to fund the police properly so there were traffic cars all over the place pulling people for speeding, phone use and careless driving then those same people claiming they’re happy for the police to enforce laws but not dashcams would suddenly switch to wailing about how we live in a police state.

Or in other words, it boils down to “I’m all right Jack, leave me alone”.

carlo996

6,110 posts

23 months

Monday 11th March
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He’s on the same level of those who send dashcam footage in.

mcpoot

799 posts

109 months

Monday 11th March
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MrTrilby said:
Or in other words, it boils down to “I’m all right Jack, leave me alone”.
Nope, I don't think that's it at all.

As has been pointed out earlier most probably have no issue with reporting people who are using their phone whilst driving.

It's the confronting them and following them to prolong the confrontation; whilst all the time filming them for "entertainment" so that you can upload the footage to YouTube in order to make money. That's what pisses people off and makes them wish tts like CM would get a slap.


MrTrilby

963 posts

284 months

Monday 11th March
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carlo996 said:
He’s on the same level of those who send dashcam footage in.
So presumably you’d just delete dashcam footage of a car on the wrong side of the road, heading straight at you, because it was overtaking around a blind bend?

carlo996

6,110 posts

23 months

Monday 11th March
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MrTrilby said:
So presumably you’d just delete dashcam footage of a car on the wrong side of the road, heading straight at you, because it was overtaking around a blind bend?
Funnily enough I’ve never seen it? In all my years of driving I’ve only seen 2 or 3 really mad things, and I was more concerned for self preservation than YouTube. I don’t want, or feel the need for a dashcam.

PinkHouse

974 posts

59 months

Monday 11th March
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By his admission, roughly half of the reports he sends in are for innocent people going about their day. So he'll happily impose financial and mental penalties on these innocent people.

The other half that get prosecuted, some will be convicted and others would be found not guilty. Of the ones found guilty another small fraction of those would be actually innocent if we take into account that the justice system cannot be 100% accurate.

My point is that he constantly puts his financial gain before the lives of innocent people. This cannot be applauded in any way

NikBartlett

608 posts

83 months

Monday 11th March
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PinkHouse said:
By his admission, roughly half of the reports he sends in are for innocent people going about their day. So he'll happily impose financial and mental penalties on these innocent people.

The other half that get prosecuted, some will be convicted and others would be found not guilty. Of the ones found guilty another small fraction of those would be actually innocent if we take into account that the justice system cannot be 100% accurate.

My point is that he constantly puts his financial gain before the lives of innocent people. This cannot be applauded in any way
50% of his videos don't contain evidence of a sufficiently high quality to trigger a case from the CPS ?

NikBartlett

608 posts

83 months

Monday 11th March
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I presume Cycling Mikey has some mates. What does he do if he catches one in their car on their phone ? Does he dob them in to the Plod like everyone else or pretend he didn't see them ?

Fastpedeller

3,915 posts

148 months

Monday 11th March
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NikBartlett said:
I presume Cycling Mikey has some mates. What does he do if he catches one in their car on their phone ? Does he dob them in to the Plod like everyone else or pretend he didn't see them ?
Anyone reading the previous posts will conclude CM has no mates. I suspect he has many mates who he's never met.

PinkHouse

974 posts

59 months

Monday 11th March
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NikBartlett said:
PinkHouse said:
By his admission, roughly half of the reports he sends in are for innocent people going about their day. So he'll happily impose financial and mental penalties on these innocent people.

The other half that get prosecuted, some will be convicted and others would be found not guilty. Of the ones found guilty another small fraction of those would be actually innocent if we take into account that the justice system cannot be 100% accurate.

My point is that he constantly puts his financial gain before the lives of innocent people. This cannot be applauded in any way
50% of his videos don't contain evidence of a sufficiently high quality to trigger a case from the CPS ?
In this legal system we call people like that "innocent"

MrTrilby

963 posts

284 months

Monday 11th March
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carlo996 said:
MrTrilby said:
So presumably you’d just delete dashcam footage of a car on the wrong side of the road, heading straight at you, because it was overtaking around a blind bend?
Funnily enough I’ve never seen it? In all my years of driving I’ve only seen 2 or 3 really mad things, and I was more concerned for self preservation than YouTube. I don’t want, or feel the need for a dashcam.
That’s not an answer to the question.

QuickQuack

2,276 posts

103 months

Monday 11th March
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carlo996 said:
MrTrilby said:
So presumably you’d just delete dashcam footage of a car on the wrong side of the road, heading straight at you, because it was overtaking around a blind bend?
Funnily enough I’ve never seen it? In all my years of driving I’ve only seen 2 or 3 really mad things, and I was more concerned for self preservation than YouTube. I don’t want, or feel the need for a dashcam.
That just means you haven't been driving for long enough and/or do many miles.

Foss62

1,073 posts

67 months

Monday 11th March
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CoolHands said:
It’s not difficult, most people don’t like tts who try to police their environment like a Walt. Go and join the police if that’s what you want to do. Also most people don’t like sanctimonious tts, and therefore will be happy if he gets lamped
CM is something of an extreme example, but I doubt that ‘most’ people particularly dislike him. As far as I can see he doesn’t harass anyone who hasn’t completely set themselves up for it.
I would say that the contributors here who are coming out with the underworld language, gangs etc. are possibly even bigger Walter Mittys than ‘Mikey’ himself.
Separating ‘The Police’ from society is always going to end badly. Living in an area where no one has any ‘buy-in’ to local law and order is never going to be much fun. Something like 50 years ago as a Saturday boy in a local shop, I remember seeing a shoplifter chased up the road by a shop owner and other workers and members of the public joining in to catch him. No ordinary person would then have considered that there was anything wrong in helping the Police if necessary, and reporting criminal activity for the general good.