Emergency legislation - information and commentary
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NickCQ said:
From what you have posted here and elsewhere it sounds like you are choosing not to get the jab anyway, so I'm not sure why you care.
Other than the fact that those not getting vaccinated will be cut out of normal life 'because filthy'?The narrative is already well underway in the Press - 'refuseniks' being the choice of words for those being cautious and awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.
June 21st will see Vaccine Passports announced and, I'm sure, legislation stopping non-vaccinated people from going about normal daily life unless they prove they've been tested negative in the past 24/48/72 hours.
It's already in place in Israel, the place Slithering Gove just came back from.
NickCQ said:
RSTurboPaul said:
awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.
tbh I haven't followed the specifics here - which of the vaccines haven't finished Phase 3 / what is Phase 3 / when is that expected?Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).
2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 21:27
markyb_lcy said:
NickCQ said:
RSTurboPaul said:
awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.
tbh I haven't followed the specifics here - which of the vaccines haven't finished Phase 3 / what is Phase 3 / when is that expected?2022/23
markyb_lcy said:
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.
Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).
2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
And then the real money can start to be charged by the vaccine companies.Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).
2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 21:27
Pfizer (IIRC) has already stated they expect it to become an ongoing income stream.
And just think - with a 'vaccine passport' that expires after six months (as the Israel version already does) anyone wanting to live a normal life would have no option but to get jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9596343/H...
markyb_lcy said:
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.
Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years). 2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
That's helpful, thanks.Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years). 2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
RSTurboPaul said:
markyb_lcy said:
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.
Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).
2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
And then the real money can start to be charged by the vaccine companies.Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).
2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 21:27
Pfizer (IIRC) has already stated they expect it to become an ongoing income stream.
And just think - with a 'vaccine passport' that expires after six months (as the Israel version already does) anyone wanting to live a normal life would have no option but to get jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9596343/H...
MHRA allowing them to change it without any further approval (as has been suggested and I've heard elsewhere) if true, is a complete dereliction of their duty. Of course, that will have nothing to do with the regulatory body being funded by BMGF. That's just pure coincidence. Gates is a lovely man who just wants what's best for us all.
RSTurboPaul said:
jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.
Hang on, isn't this just what happens with 'flu in the ordinary course of business? I thought one of the key planks of the "let it rip" school of thought was that we should manage COVID just like we manage 'flu?NickCQ said:
RSTurboPaul said:
jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.
Hang on, isn't this just what happens with 'flu in the ordinary course of business? I thought one of the key planks of the "let it rip" school of thought was that we should manage COVID just like we manage 'flu?(I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read that somewhere.)
NickCQ said:
markyb_lcy said:
Gates is a lovely man who just wants what's best for us all.
There it is. And you guys were doing so well!You must be one of those conspiracy theorists that Marianna on the BBC warned me about.
(Fwiw, I’m a Linux engineer and a lifelong champion of free/open source software. As such, Ive had a deep distrust of Gates since well in advance of his philanthropy days. Look at how he built the Microsoft empire - by screwing over anyone and anything in his/its path).
(Edit, BTW if anyone wants something geeky to watch Re:Gates, check out Pirates Of Silicon Valley - its a movie, and features a young Noah Wyle).
Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 22:35
In case not posted before, here's what Gates wants to do (like China does already): https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?...
Overview; (much more detail via the link above) (it'll be a Central Bank Digital Currency of course)
1. WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.
Overview; (much more detail via the link above) (it'll be a Central Bank Digital Currency of course)
1. WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.
Well, assuming you are happy to carry out the tasks you have been set, whether you like it or not...
I note that the patent has the numbers 060606 in it - which the Tin Foil advocates have pointed out is similar to the '666' 'mark of the beast' thing that seems to keep cropping up in relation to 'new world order' stuff more often than would be coincidental.
Even I am not sure about that... lol, but the fact that it does crop up quite often (from what I've read) is interesting enough to be of note.
I note that the patent has the numbers 060606 in it - which the Tin Foil advocates have pointed out is similar to the '666' 'mark of the beast' thing that seems to keep cropping up in relation to 'new world order' stuff more often than would be coincidental.
Even I am not sure about that... lol, but the fact that it does crop up quite often (from what I've read) is interesting enough to be of note.
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