A political message.....for all to read..
Discussion
silverback mike said:
Yes, as serving Police officers we cannot advocate any blatant political, racial, or bigoted viewpoints.
I tend to leave my 'hat' at work, but am concious that anything blatantly offensive to anyone will be deemed unnacceptable.
We are, after all, on duty 24 hours a day, and although I do tend to give my personal opinion on many things,some which possibly would raise the odd eyebrow from some in the Police service, I will never be openly anti establishment. If I was, I should not be a Police officer.
If I were to be 'faceless' on here then my opinions would be very similar, maybe more vocal, but nevertheless I think it is important to give an opinon as befits the discussion.
I don;t think anyone here would expect any police officer to be blatantanly poilitical, racist etc, or even anti-establishment.
However there must be a number of public servants, irrespective of which department/authority they work for, who are concerned about the direction their deprtment/authority is taking.
Having worked for a while in a government office I am well aware that those on the ground had doubts about the wisdom of the changes that were taking place in the name of efficiency, cost saving etc. Those concerns were not in order to protect our jobs, but were due to the fact that it was believed the cost cutting would affect the service the public received. The cost cutting efficiences did nothing to reduce the number of managers!
A couple of local councillors have recently been out on patrol with our local police on a Friday night, and their comment was how much time was wasted on relatively minor incidents, all fuelled by drink, and the form filling etc.
The police now appear to have little time to spend on patrol, I was told the other day that a police officer only spends about 20% of their time on patrol. Its no longer that police officers are no longer seen, and as a result people don't feel safe.
The politican who at the next election says "I will reduce the paperwork for the police, I will ensure that the police are free from political correctness, I will allow the police to clip teenage brats round the ear to teach them a lesson" etc will get my vote!
Streetcop said:
Let me make it clear...I'm not saying that I'm changing the content of my posts to be more politically correct. I've always been politically correct on here. The change in tact is more of toning down the policy and procedures of the police service and instead giving my own view and angle on things..
So - reading between the lines a bit - there's a memo that says you can't comment on Police procedure, policies, priorities and, by implication, memos?
Is that about the size of it? Please send me a copy of the memo anaonymously. We simply can't let that sort of thing go on, and clearly you don't agree with it because you're already in violation by commenting on the new policy. (?)
Streetcop said:
No it's not that.....
There has been nothing official, but a local newspaper has recently been in touch with some police gaffers about a prosecution methods employed by my force.
This has in turn, caused the management to believe one or more BiB is leaking info to the press about the matter. It's really not a big thing at all and certainly not controversial in any way.
That situation just got me thinking a bit, that's all. Call it paranoia....
Street
Aber doch..... Liebchen....
You have not posted anything about prosecution methods - and if you mean the setting when you had nasty experience of that nasty talivan ..... there was a chap featured on "Traffic Cops" who was sat in his talivan mit little gleam in his eyes as he pointed his doo-dah at unsuspecting drivers. In fairness - he allowed a very generous tolerance margin 10 mph above the limit
(Not sure if that was for Beeb's camera.... 
) Und posting about the initiative mit the children outside the school un letting us know you had copped 130 drivers
driving "thumb in bum" past the school that day .... that is not being an "informer" or "dastardly double agent" Und posting about what it takes to achieve permission to drive such and such type of cop car is not secret knowledge - we have had the documentary on the telly about it and Dick Ed's force were on that one
Und posting about your abrreviations .... again that is not uncommon knowledge ......
Chill out - und don't panic!
Stasis
Told ya! Streetcop said:
I've noticed on a couple of threads people have commented on something I've said claiming; "is this the new PC Streetcop?" in response to something that I've written that they don't like.
Let me make it clear...I'm not saying that I'm changing the content of my posts to be more politically correct. I've always been politically correct on here.
Street
This may be a good time to draw the attention of PH'ers to the fact that "Political Correctness" is nothing at all to do with respect for others and everything to do with control of all of us.
It is, in fact, a tool of Communism and some of those who practice it, the well-meaning ones like Gary, are unwittingly and unknowingly assisting the spread of Communism and State control. Sounds mad doesn't it?
Try putting "political correctness", The Frankfurt School and the "Critical Theory" into Google and be horrified.
Here is a sample:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/
also:
http://academia.org/lectures/lind1.html
Gary, this is not an attack on you. I enjoy reading most of your posts but I am drawing attention to the fact that even educated folk such as yourself can be misled by this dangerous PC dogma.
Of course there are others who know exactly what they are trying to achieve.
>> Edited by Tafia on Sunday 26th September 11:01
Streetcop said:
No it's not that.....
There has been nothing official, but a local newspaper has recently been in touch with some police gaffers about a prosecution methods employed by my force.
This has in turn, caused the management to believe one or more BiB is leaking info to the press about the matter. It's really not a big thing at all and certainly not controversial in any way.
That situation just got me thinking a bit, that's all. Call it paranoia....
Street
Ok, thanks for the further clarification. It sounded much more sinister at the start of the thread.
Of course it's now hard to be really confident that it isn't the secret memo talking. Arrrgh!
Tafia said:Only most..
Gary, this is not an attack on you. I enjoy reading most of your posts
tafia said:
but I am drawing attention to the fact that even educated folk such as yourself can be misled by this dangerous PC dogma.
It's a case of 'if you want your job; toe the line. If not..bye bye'.
It's not just the police that political correctness rules, it's other organisations too.
Although, things like the Stephen Lawrence enquiry have certainly made the police service look the worst offenders..
hew: Streetcop said:
Gary, this is not an attack on you. I enjoy reading most of your posts
Only most..
tafia said:
but I am drawing attention to the fact that even educated folk such as yourself can be misled by this dangerous PC dogma.
It's a case of 'if you want your job; toe the line. If not..bye bye'.
It's not just the police that political correctness rules, it's other organisations too.
Although, things like the Stephen Lawrence enquiry have certainly made the police service look the worst offenders..
So Gary mon, did you read the links about PC and Marxism? All makes sense now, huh?
T
I started looking at one of the threads, while it raises some valid points I can't help thinking it may have been writen by men (sorry people) in white (sorry non black) pointy (non blunt) hats.
There is certainly a level of bias suggesting every exponent of PC is trying to destroy western demorcracy. I dislike the PC movement but I don't believe it is an orchestrated process, merely the result of misguided people following something they haven't fully thought through. (Much like the rest of government)
There is certainly a level of bias suggesting every exponent of PC is trying to destroy western demorcracy. I dislike the PC movement but I don't believe it is an orchestrated process, merely the result of misguided people following something they haven't fully thought through. (Much like the rest of government)
silverback mike said:
No doubt Wildcat, Herr Doctor Mog has similar pressures, in fact the crap that Doctors and Nurses have to put up with is unbelievable.
tchuss
Fun jobs we have really
But - really - could not imagine myself doing anything else.
Have always wanted to be doctor from as long as I can remember.
gone said:
Thats great news. I for one am tired of your "know it all" posts.
FFS, being a copper is just a job. Why do some of you think it's any more impressive than being a plumber? It isn't and you earn far less dough than plumber anyway.
Strange that he doesn't appear to give 'Know it all advice' on plumbing!
His line of work brings him into the realms of being a professional regarding law and motor vehicles. Something of which many on this site appear to believe they themselves are experts because they have worked hard and earnt a few quid to pay for expensive toys which they routinely drive badly because 'they think they know' and have done a few laps around a track.
Flasher I do not know what you do, but if you were to start posting on a site which details a notice board in relation to your field of 'expertise', I think I would refrain from the sort of message you have posted above.
Strange that the bits you want to hear are applauded but the bits you don't like are not
But then again, Street
What has the size of your wage packet got to do with it anyway?
Grow up and act your age!
Gone
Bollocks mate, all of it. Check all my posts if you must but you wont find any applauding the tripe posted on here. I used to enjoy your posts for sure but I dont remember any of them being as pathetic as the ones over the last few months. We even had one of you posting that bikers deserved to die......
I dont post about my job because it's f*** all to do with the topics on these forums and I'm not so full of self importance as to think people want to read about it.
As for fatmouth audi man, no copper has ever "saved my ass" as you put it and neither do I expect them to.
My mother was a policewoman up until she retired and I'm fortunate enough to have several close friends who have been in the police force for many years. I'm sure they would find the posts of several of you on here utterly ridiculous and one or two bring the police force into disrepute. (I'm not including you in that madcop)
I dont care if some of you dislike my opinion, the last time I checked this was still a free country with free speech and I decided to post my opinion. Whether you disliked my reluctance to post a sychophantic "plese dont go street" response or not is irrelevant to me as I'm tired of the whole forum. It seems to have become a place for some to brag about their status rather than the helpful tool it used to be....
flasher said:
My mother was a policewoman up until she retired
I hope your mum is well. Send her my regards as a current serving BiB.
flasher said:
I'm sure they would find the posts of several of you on here utterly ridiculous and one or two bring the police force into disrepute. (I'm not including you in that madcop)
That must be me.....Don't know why though..or am I being paranoid?
flasher said:
"please dont go street"
I've no intention of going..but thanks for the support anyway..
flasher said:
It seems to have become a place for some to brag about their status rather than the helpful tool it used to be....
Sorry that you feel like that. There are loads of decent people on here to more than even the balance...
Stay safe..
Street
silverback mike said:
[quote=flasher]
[quote=flasher]I'm sure they would find the posts of several of you on here utterly ridiculous and one or two bring the police force into disrepute. (I'm not including you in that madcop)
Hope you don't mean me...
Mike...can't you 'quote' flasher instead of me?
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