Lodger has been taking things...

Lodger has been taking things...

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vaud

50,815 posts

157 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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elanfan said:
What does the guy do for a living? If a criminal record could affect his employment status I think he’ll be keen to leave without police involvement. So it becomes his choice leave of own free will tonight or you’re getting arrested. He won’t know how many videos you have of him.
Proving theft is going to be hard in this case (in my view).

Even if he had taken aftershave, the police aren't going to prosecute - they scarcely prosecute shoplifting . He'll just say he had asked the OP casually and the OP had said ok - as it wouldn't be an unreasonable action for a lodger / landlord.

TimmyMallett

2,922 posts

114 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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If you're covered legally (ask the CAB - as in, its a cash informal agreement and no rent book and contract) then I'd be putting his stuff out the front door and changing the locks after sending him that picture.

Heaveho

5,372 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Having someone in my place doing that would not only appall me but might genuinely end up with me on another assault charge. I have a pathological hatred of theives on any level. I'd honestly have gone either back home or to wherever he works and dealt with it immediately. I couldn't have him back in the house.

I'm in admiration of what seems like a fairly understated and calm response from the op here. I just don't know how people stay reasonable when faced with this stuff.

g3org3y

20,695 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Maybe I could leave an eviction notice for him in my drawer?
hehe

Jonmx

2,556 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Tell him if he surrenders the keys and leaves within 24 hours, he'll get the deposit back and no further action will be taken. Tell him the other option involves the police as items have gone missing (a white lie to st him up). He'll be gone pretty swiftish.
Whilst it would be entertaining to hide in the wardrobe etc, in reality it's your home and he needs to be gone asap.

TimmyMallett

2,922 posts

114 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Jonmx said:
Tell him if he surrenders the keys and leaves within 24 hours, he'll get the deposit back and no further action will be taken. Tell him the other option involves the police as items have gone missing (a white lie to st him up). He'll be gone pretty swiftish.
Whilst it would be entertaining to hide in the wardrobe etc, in reality it's your home and he needs to be gone asap.
Better solution.

MUDGUTZ

117 posts

149 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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There’s another dimension to this: you know now he has been taking things but is it possible he’s put something in your room? Or keeping something there? I would involve the police straight away to cover yourself.

Strudul

1,596 posts

87 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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VBRJ.

egomeister

6,724 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Jonmx said:
Tell him if he surrenders the keys and leaves within 24 hours, he'll get the deposit back and no further action will be taken. Tell him the other option involves the police as items have gone missing (a white lie to st him up). He'll be gone pretty swiftish.
Whilst it would be entertaining to hide in the wardrobe etc, in reality it's your home and he needs to be gone asap.
Purchase replacement locks, then the above. Swap locks as soon as he departs.

ScotHill

3,248 posts

111 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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OP, why have you got plug sockets halfway up your wall?

JackJarvis

2,312 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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When you confront him he'll likely try to play it down, make excuses, say he thought you'd be cool with it. I'd personally report it to the police, not because they'll do anything about it, but to let him know how seriously you take it. I'd then give him an hour to get his belongings together and GTF. I'd also keep the camera running to capture any interaction you have with him.


TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,176 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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ScotHill said:
OP, why have you got plug sockets halfway up your wall?
I have no fking idea, they're fking stupid. I can only assume the person who had them installed had lighting above their bed headboard??

B'stard Child

28,510 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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ScotHill said:
OP, why have you got plug sockets halfway up your wall?
The Internet said:
UK Building Regulations state that wall mounted sockets should be positioned so they can easily be reachable in the given room. Whilst there are no specific regulations that need to be followed. As a general rule of thumb sockets should be installed at least 450mm to 1200mm up from the floor level of any room
Average room height in UK is 2.4 m so 1.2 m would be half way up wink

Go big or go home biggrin

B'stard Child

28,510 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
ScotHill said:
OP, why have you got plug sockets halfway up your wall?
I have no fking idea, they're fking stupid. I can only assume the person who had them installed had lighting above their bed headboard??
rofl better than my answer biggrin

Jonmx

2,556 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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JackJarvis said:
When you confront him he'll likely try to play it down, make excuses, say he thought you'd be cool with it. I'd personally report it to the police, not because they'll do anything about it, but to let him know how seriously you take it. I'd then give him an hour to get his belongings together and GTF. I'd also keep the camera running to capture any interaction you have with him.
Quite. Police would be unlikely to even attend other than to potentially prevent a breach of the peace when you kick him out. If you're concerned he'll be a nob when you ask him to leave, then you're perfectly within your rights to request an officer attend to prevent that breach of the peace.
Recording the interaction is a good shout, be clear, calm and firm. Don't swear, get angry or fall for any attempts to wind you up. He'll be on the back foot, embarrassed and possibly angry at being caught out.

Electronicpants

2,663 posts

190 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Strudul said:
VBRJ.
rofl been a while since since someone has suggested that.



BrettMRC

4,182 posts

162 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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We've all missed the obvious question here!

...what's his PH user ID?

boombang

551 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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OzzyR1 said:
You've probably got other things on your mind OP, but can you share the model of camera you used?

Hope you get it sorted.
That app looks Tapo to me. https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=tapo+camera

Cyberprog

2,204 posts

185 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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AlwynMike said:
Had a guy at work who was stealing chocolate bars from me.
Even injecting them with a significant amount of shampoo didn't deter him, although he was petty enough to steal them and throw them away!
reminds me of the last place I worked. You could leave £20 on your desk but not a chocolate bar!

Digger

14,737 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Here's a screenshot not showing his face



Honestly, I'm quite shaken up by it.
Wait until you get home & see if he took anything. Is there a lock on the door a locksmith can get you a key for?