"Offical Warning" from the Police
Discussion
Pit Pony said:
I'm confused. Isn't the Police a "Service". Please don't refer to it as a "Force" as they would emply that that aren't acting on the behalf of the public, serving us all to keep us all safe but are there to force us all to do what they want us to do.
No. It's a Police Force delivering a police service.You search for your local Force, not your local service.
Police services in the UK are organised around two legal entities: the ‘Office of Constable’ and the police force. - The House of Commons.
The recruitment of officers and police staff is usually done directly by forces - The College of Policing.
Local force inspections. HMICFRS inspects and monitors the 43 territorial police forces in England and Wales. - HMICFRS
Police forces - Gov.uk
Police forces - NPCC
Police forces - Crimebodge
The MET and PNSI are 'services' in name only. They are the forces responsible for supplying police services in their respective areas.
Nibbles_bits said:
From that same Immigration forum -
"I have made a phone call to the police. They checked again the accident and the warning letter in their system, and they assured me it's not a criminal record and it is just a letter to ask me to be careful when driving in the future".
So it appears, as previously posted, it's an officious letter reminding Mrs Nibbles_bits of something she is already aware of.
Nice to see my force (and others) spending their time and budget wisely.
If only there was another, free, publication that was available to road users
You lot are weird. I get the urge to find out if it has legal significance, because that can affect your life. But there is nothing inherently wrong with sending legally insignificant warnings."I have made a phone call to the police. They checked again the accident and the warning letter in their system, and they assured me it's not a criminal record and it is just a letter to ask me to be careful when driving in the future".
So it appears, as previously posted, it's an officious letter reminding Mrs Nibbles_bits of something she is already aware of.
Nice to see my force (and others) spending their time and budget wisely.
If only there was another, free, publication that was available to road users
Not everything has to have tangible consequences or formality. It's a reminder to the recipient that their driving fell below the expected standard, and it seems sensible to issue that after such an accident. There are loads of people on here whining about a lack of pragmatic policing or asking why they couldn't have been let off with a warning, which is what happened here, and now you're moaning about that.
trashbat said:
Nibbles_bits said:
From that same Immigration forum -
"I have made a phone call to the police. They checked again the accident and the warning letter in their system, and they assured me it's not a criminal record and it is just a letter to ask me to be careful when driving in the future".
So it appears, as previously posted, it's an officious letter reminding Mrs Nibbles_bits of something she is already aware of.
Nice to see my force (and others) spending their time and budget wisely.
If only there was another, free, publication that was available to road users
You lot are weird. I get the urge to find out if it has legal significance, because that can affect your life. But there is nothing inherently wrong with sending legally insignificant warnings."I have made a phone call to the police. They checked again the accident and the warning letter in their system, and they assured me it's not a criminal record and it is just a letter to ask me to be careful when driving in the future".
So it appears, as previously posted, it's an officious letter reminding Mrs Nibbles_bits of something she is already aware of.
Nice to see my force (and others) spending their time and budget wisely.
If only there was another, free, publication that was available to road users
Not everything has to have tangible consequences or formality. It's a reminder to the recipient that their driving fell below the expected standard, and it seems sensible to issue that after such an accident. There are loads of people on here whining about a lack of pragmatic policing or asking why they couldn't have been let off with a warning, which is what happened here, and now you're moaning about that.
And the questions are, where is this being recorded and for what purpose.
Edited by Nibbles_bits on Sunday 12th November 22:45
Nibbles_bits said:
And the questions are, where is this being recorded and for what purpose.
I may have missed this, but why do you suppose it is being recorded and why does there have to be another purpose other than putting something in writing?As the previous poster has said, there seems to be a driving need to find some ulterior motive for this. Why should there be? It's completely usual in many areas of life to say something in writing to reinforce what has been said verbally.
BertBert said:
Nibbles_bits said:
And the questions are, where is this being recorded and for what purpose.
I may have missed this, but why do you suppose it is being recorded and why does there have to be another purpose other than putting something in writing?As the previous poster has said, there seems to be a driving need to find some ulterior motive for this. Why should there be? It's completely usual in many areas of life to say something in writing to reinforce what has been said verbally.
For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
Nibbles_bits said:
It will be the bit that states it's being kept on record that makes me "suppose" it's being recorded.
For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
You haven't previously mentioned that the letter says it is kept on record as far as I can see.For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
What is the exact wording for this in the letter?
Nibbles_bits said:
Pit Pony said:
I'm confused. Isn't the Police a "Service". Please don't refer to it as a "Force" as they would emply that that aren't acting on the behalf of the public, serving us all to keep us all safe but are there to force us all to do what they want us to do.
No. It's a Police Force delivering a police service.You search for your local Force, not your local service.
Police services in the UK are organised around two legal entities: the ‘Office of Constable’ and the police force. - The House of Commons.
The recruitment of officers and police staff is usually done directly by forces - The College of Policing.
Local force inspections. HMICFRS inspects and monitors the 43 territorial police forces in England and Wales. - HMICFRS
Police forces - Gov.uk
Police forces - NPCC
Police forces - Crimebodge
The MET and PNSI are 'services' in name only. They are the forces responsible for supplying police services in their respective areas.
BertBert said:
Nibbles_bits said:
It will be the bit that states it's being kept on record that makes me "suppose" it's being recorded.
For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
You haven't previously mentioned that the letter says it is kept on record as far as I can see.For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
What is the exact wording for this in the letter?
Can't give you the exact wording, as the letter went in the bin.
Pit Pony said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Pit Pony said:
I'm confused. Isn't the Police a "Service". Please don't refer to it as a "Force" as they would emply that that aren't acting on the behalf of the public, serving us all to keep us all safe but are there to force us all to do what they want us to do.
No. It's a Police Force delivering a police service.You search for your local Force, not your local service.
Police services in the UK are organised around two legal entities: the ‘Office of Constable’ and the police force. - The House of Commons.
The recruitment of officers and police staff is usually done directly by forces - The College of Policing.
Local force inspections. HMICFRS inspects and monitors the 43 territorial police forces in England and Wales. - HMICFRS
Police forces - Gov.uk
Police forces - NPCC
Police forces - Crimebodge
The MET and PNSI are 'services' in name only. They are the forces responsible for supplying police services in their respective areas.
I think it's quite clear in my reply that whether they're called a Force, Department, Service, Agency, Authority, Constabulary, Gendarmerie, Crime Prevention, Civil Guard, Civic Guard, Protective Service, Security Force, Bureau, Law Enforcement Agency, Gaurdians of the Peace or even a potato......they all provide a police service
Nibbles_bits said:
BertBert said:
Nibbles_bits said:
It will be the bit that states it's being kept on record that makes me "suppose" it's being recorded.
For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
You haven't previously mentioned that the letter says it is kept on record as far as I can see.For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
What is the exact wording for this in the letter?
Can't give you the exact wording, as the letter went in the bin.
(Get your landlady) to write to the dibbles and ask for a copy under the Data Protection Act.
Send that, and a covering letter, to the Ombudsman and to your local MP asking for comments and clarification.
Voldemort said:
Nibbles_bits said:
BertBert said:
Nibbles_bits said:
It will be the bit that states it's being kept on record that makes me "suppose" it's being recorded.
For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
You haven't previously mentioned that the letter says it is kept on record as far as I can see.For what purpose??
And where?
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, I just want to know for what purpose it is being recorded?
Because, as a Police Officer myself, I know that it can't be used as evidence in the future.
What is the exact wording for this in the letter?
Can't give you the exact wording, as the letter went in the bin.
(Get your landlady) to write to the dibbles and ask for a copy under the Data Protection Act.
Send that, and a covering letter, to the Ombudsman and to your local MP asking for comments and clarification.
Ombudsman?
Pit Pony said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Pit Pony said:
I'm confused. Isn't the Police a "Service". Please don't refer to it as a "Force" as they would emply that that aren't acting on the behalf of the public, serving us all to keep us all safe but are there to force us all to do what they want us to do.
No. It's a Police Force delivering a police service.You search for your local Force, not your local service.
Police services in the UK are organised around two legal entities: the ‘Office of Constable’ and the police force. - The House of Commons.
The recruitment of officers and police staff is usually done directly by forces - The College of Policing.
Local force inspections. HMICFRS inspects and monitors the 43 territorial police forces in England and Wales. - HMICFRS
Police forces - Gov.uk
Police forces - NPCC
Police forces - Crimebodge
The MET and PNSI are 'services' in name only. They are the forces responsible for supplying police services in their respective areas.
Pit Pony said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Pit Pony said:
I'm confused. Isn't the Police a "Service". Please don't refer to it as a "Force" as they would emply that that aren't acting on the behalf of the public, serving us all to keep us all safe but are there to force us all to do what they want us to do.
No. It's a Police Force delivering a police service.You search for your local Force, not your local service.
Police services in the UK are organised around two legal entities: the ‘Office of Constable’ and the police force. - The House of Commons.
The recruitment of officers and police staff is usually done directly by forces - The College of Policing.
Local force inspections. HMICFRS inspects and monitors the 43 territorial police forces in England and Wales. - HMICFRS
Police forces - Gov.uk
Police forces - NPCC
Police forces - Crimebodge
The MET and PNSI are 'services' in name only. They are the forces responsible for supplying police services in their respective areas.
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff