Caught speeding - 125mph on A2 Kent!!!! Hellllp

[y2blade]

darryl, any update on this?

Edited by y2blade on Thursday 26th August 10:00

[IainT]

plg said:

Elroy Blue said:

My point was that there are mant benefit scroungers 'legally' claiming for the likes of disability benefit. (So called bad back/depression). We know it's fraudulent, but it's legal. What's the difference. The benefit leeches get castigated (rightly) for stealing from the country. Why is it any different for those that 'legally' fiddle Tax and VAT. They're stealing from the country in exactly the same way.

I agree with you on this - sorry - I misunderstood in your initial posting.

If it's fraudulent it's not legal. Feigning sickness to get benefit is fraud.

Very different from working within the permitted legal taxation framework to minimise personal taxation i.e. down to levels of a normal employee rather than paying twice.

[plg]

IainT said:

plg said:

Elroy Blue said:

My point was that there are mant benefit scroungers 'legally' claiming for the likes of disability benefit. (So called bad back/depression). We know it's fraudulent, but it's legal. What's the difference. The benefit leeches get castigated (rightly) for stealing from the country. Why is it any different for those that 'legally' fiddle Tax and VAT. They're stealing from the country in exactly the same way.

I agree with you on this - sorry - I misunderstood in your initial posting.

If it's fraudulent it's not legal. Feigning sickness to get benefit is fraud.

Very different from working within the permitted legal taxation framework to minimise personal taxation i.e. down to levels of a normal employee rather than paying twice.

I think we need a new thread for discussing a moral vs legal tax discussion....

[Markymark69]

Im starting to think Kent has a downer on speeding.

[Tallbut Buxomly]

Markymark69 said:

Im starting to think Kent has a downer on speeding.

Why??

Did you get done too or something. You honestly have to try incredibly hard to get done for speeding in kent. I mean really like driving flat out past plod in their marked up car at 150mph whilst giving them the finger.

[SS2.]

hora said:

125 on an A road. FECK. I'm thinking it could be a custodial question?

Not if he was warned at the time (and is prosecuted) for excess speed only.

[Roo]

SS2. said:

hora said:

125 on an A road. FECK. I'm thinking it could be a custodial question?

Not if he was warned at the time (and is prosecuted) for excess speed only.

Bearing in mind some of it is 8 lanes wide as well it's not that hard to do.

I know someone who was pulled over on the same stretch of road as he was trying to slow down to a speed still in excess of what the OP was stopped for and was just given a talking to.

[IainT]

SS2. said:

hora said:

125 on an A road. FECK. I'm thinking it could be a custodial question?

Not if he was warned at the time (and is prosecuted) for excess speed only.

Plus it's likely to be the bit just after it's the M2 or before that is physically no different from the MWay section.

Doing that speed in teh 50mph bit heading into london would be a bit silly though.

[Markymark69]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

Markymark69 said:

Im starting to think Kent has a downer on speeding.

Why??

Did you get done too or something. You honestly have to try incredibly hard to get done for speeding in kent. I mean really like driving flat out past plod in their marked up car at 150mph whilst giving them the finger.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=881705&mid=186966&nmt=104%20mph%20at%203am%20on%20a%20motorway.

That was on the M2.

[N88]

Elroy Blue said:

Some stuff.

So if you were self employed, and you had 2 ways of remunerating yourself which are both perfectly legal, you would choose the one which resulted in paying more tax? Would you feck!

[JonRB]

Elroy Blue said:

Mitigation? I think normal people call it tax avoidance. A bit like benefit scroungers claiming things they're not entitled too. Bet you get a receipt for EVERYTHING as well. (Nice way to fiddle the VAT)

I suggest you read up a bit. Tax Avoidance is completely legal. Tax Evasion is illegal.

Yes, I get a receipt for every purchase I make that is wholly and justifiably a business expense and put it through my company. Why on earth would I not.

I presume you're employed? If your employer sent you on a business trip and you incurred expenses, are you *honestly* telling me that you wouldn't claim them back from your employer if they were legally, honestly and legitimately incurred? You'd say "oh don't worry, I'll carry that"? I honestly don't think you would.

The tax rules are clearly laid out (even if it does take a accountant to understand them) and I operate within them. What exactly is your problem with this?

Edit: BTW, I think you should reconsider your very serious and libellous accusation that I am involved in VAT fraud.

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 26th August 13:45

[Markymark69]

JonRB said:

Elroy Blue said:

Mitigation? I think normal people call it tax avoidance. A bit like benefit scroungers claiming things they're not entitled too. Bet you get a receipt for EVERYTHING as well. (Nice way to fiddle the VAT)

I suggest you read up a bit. Tax Avoidance is completely legal. Tax Evasion is illegal.

Yes, I get a receipt for every purchase I make that is wholly and justifiably a business expense and put it through my company. Why on earth would I not.

I presume you're employed? If your employer sent you on a business trip and you incurred expenses, are you *honestly* telling me that you wouldn't claim them back from your employer if they were legally, honestly and legitimately incurred? You'd say "oh don't worry, I'll carry that"? I honestly don't think you would.

The tax rules are clearly laid out (even if it does take a accountant to understand them) and I operate within them. What exactly is your problem with this?

His problem is he probably aint self employed.

[Tallbut Buxomly]

Im wondering if this is the same mag court i got done in as the mag's were right stuck up pricks.

[Tiggsy]

Roo said:

SS2. said:

hora said:

125 on an A road. FECK. I'm thinking it could be a custodial question?

Not if he was warned at the time (and is prosecuted) for excess speed only.

Bearing in mind some of it is 8 lanes wide as well it's not that hard to do.

not hard....but not easy either. To do anything over 100mph indicates a very obvious awareness of what you're doing - it doesn't creep up on you no matter what your driving. I drive a large engined diesel that is very quiet and stable at 100mph.....I still know I'm doing it and to go another 20 on top would be obvious.

To do it past another car is dumb.

[Elroy Blue]

JonRB said:

Edit: BTW, I think you should reconsider your very serious accusation that I am involved in VAT fraud.

Is that a guilty conscience!

Feel free to contact your internet lawyer!

[NobleGuy]

Elroy Blue said:

JonRB said:

ol said:

Salary of most self employed people before they 'top it up' with share dividends...

It's called "tax mitigation". You think the grass is greener this side? Then jump the fence or STFU.

THREAD DRIFT.

Mitigation? I think normal people call it tax avoidance. A bit like benefit scroungers claiming things they're not entitled too. Bet you get a receipt for EVERYTHING as well. (Nice way to fiddle the VAT)

You're talking complete bks...

It's not fiddling the VAT In any case a lot of self-employed use a flat-rate scheme that automatically deducts VAT at a given percentage depending on the company industry, so receipts and VAT-deductable costs make f**k all difference.

Love the bulls**t some people come out with...

[Tallbut Buxomly]

2 things

1 I am impressed at how upset everyone is getting over eb's silly uninformed comments.
2 I thought this thread was about speeding not tax law?????

[NobleGuy]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

2 things

1 I am impressed at how upset everyone is getting over eb's silly uninformed comments.
2 I thought this thread was about speeding not tax law?????

"Thread Gets Derailed" shocker

[Tallbut Buxomly]

Yeah whoda thunk it ha.....

[djohnson]

Elroy Blue said:

'Within the rules'. A bit like MP's expenses then.

Dividend income has a different tax and NI treatment to earned income. Paying yourself a mixture of salary and dividend is a very plain vanilla way to mitigate taxation and is widely undertaken and accepted. For the most part it’s a totally non-aggressive tax structure. If you think that it’s unacceptable I hate to hear your view on some of the genuinely aggressive tax structures.

Edited by djohnson on Thursday 26th August 16:15

Edited by djohnson on Thursday 26th August 16:15